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Sure thing Toutsuite. One thing I'll begin by saying is that this is the nicest forum I'm on, and reading the responses to this particular thread it's nice to see that you guys think along the same line as me. Here's what I wrote on another forum, I hope it summarises my own opinion (which isn't too different from you guys). I felt the need to write this because of some of the responses I was seeing to the video... Shocking quote frankly. I don't really like to participate in discussions like this, due to too many differing opinions, and the virtual medium in which it's conducted. However... I'll begin with saying that I believe it's right the driver suffers some degree of conviction. At the end of the day, it helps sets a precedence and sends a message to others that everyone is responsible on the road. Aside from that, I've watched three different edits of this video now. This one, one that shows more of him riding prior to the accident, and one that sadly shows him ending up on the ground. All that rattles through my mind is: A. why was he going THAT fast down a road like that, and; B. would he have died if he was doing the speed limit. I know there are many other variables, which are ultimately too hard to fully establish, quantify and understand when just relying on single footage, but I can't help but think that the rider was the cause of his own death. Harsh I know, but he has as much responsibility on the road as the car driver. Granted the car driver caused the accident, but perhaps the biker could have either avoided it, or come away with injury (to whatever degree). Finally, I'll just end by saying that I feel terrible for the rider and his family, but also the car driver. I personally applaud the bikers' family decision to share this recording. For me it helps to keep me grounded. I, as most of you, will understand how easy it is to get carried away on a bike, so even if this video hammers home a message to just a handful of road users out there, me included, then I'm happy.

|Well i was shown this by the wife when it was first air'd and i have to agree that this collision is a double headed sword and was both the riders and the car drivers fault both had a lack of awareness of the road and obviously the speed was a major factor. I personally do get a bit throttle happy (as will most folk) but as nieve as it sounds i do think there is a time and place for it, at junctions in give them a wide birth and stay at the speed limit (give or take a few MPH if my mind laps) I truly feel sympathy for all the family and the people involved in this event including the service personnel that where called ouot to it as its not really the type of thing you to wake up in the morning to go a do. as for the aggresive resoponses you get on the other sites Bips they must just be the manority of bikers that think the lord jebus waves out of their chocolate starfish and gives them a pat on the back, bit like the ones that want to play Son's of Anarchy like the ones i met the other night (total fucking pricks may i add)

Nice intro joan [ is it pronounced Wan ] ? The cat is cool ,,,,so is an R6 ...

There are bolts on the left and right hand side under the rear of the seat. They're the only bolts that should be visible, once you take them out you can lift the seat off.

Thanks Andrew I'll be able to get my bike fixed now... Hopefully lol

I use the cheapest I can find petrol for the bike,diesel for the car, have tried the dearer fuels and found no difference, I'd use paraffin but it don't burn so well.

Free to a good home. We bought Hovis as a pedigree but it turns out he is inbred.

It's my understanding that that particular section of road has a 60mph speed limit. Also the rider was 38, not 22. Had been riding since he was a teenager. Just clarifying some facts, that's all - please don't shoot the messenger! We all have our own views on this particular video, and I've seen them all on other forums, ranging from the aggressive, to sympathetic, the arrogant and also the high and mighty. I guess that's what makes us all individuals at the end of the day... Ultimately, with anything like this I just hope it doesn't result in a greater divide between car drivers and bikers. I already feel there is too much hate out there between these road users, and it's not how it should be.

Nope I wasn't scraping my pegs lol, brand new bike still breaking it in so have been taking it easy...... Well sort of anyway! Yeah I thought Ohh shit here we go this is going to hurt, tensed up shut the throttle, dropped a gear and gently rode the back brake trying to scrub some speed. Yes I was looking at the hedge line... Well tree and pilon line.... Looked like a gentle sweeper.... Turned out it wasn't. In hind sight don't play whacky racers on l plates on a road you don't know, pick your lines wisely and last but not least relax and stamp on the pegs if it starts to look like you over cooked if lol. In the heat of the moment I'll admit I was fixed on the tree branch I took out.... The upside is I saved the local council a job cutting it down....