Yep, i agree. The finishing and quality of materials on the chinese bikes is shocking in my experiance. It was 3 years old when i bought it with 8k on the clock. i'm assuming all dry miles since it turned orange (rust) first time it got wet. Had all sorts of problems bolts snapping, welds rusting and the like. It's not like i wasn't looking after it either, gave it a hose down every day in the winter, lubed and a proper wash every weekend. I gave up on it after 6 months, cleaned it and chucked it in the back of the garage after getting fed up of working on it every day. As always though, I saw loads of bikes i had been eyeing up at great prices just after buying the chinky too