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Well, it all went downhill after changing the axle. Went to start the bike up afterwards, turned over fine, but wouldn’t fire. Cranked plenty, but just no start. I had a feeling it might’ve had some water ingress, as I’d washed it before working on the axle. Pulled the tank and airbox off, everything looked bone dry. Took the coils off just in case, also completely dry. Put it all back together and tried a few wide-open throttle starts to clear any flooding. Waited a few minutes and tried again normally... pt pt pt bang stop. It almost started. Hooked up the OBD reader, no stored fault codes. Then, suddenly: click click click. Wouldn’t even try to crank. Thought maybe the battery was on its way out, so I charged it for a couple of hours, full charge. Still just click click click. Figured maybe the starter fuse had blown. At that point I gave up and booked it in with the local bike shop. Garage called later. They wanted to know a bit more history, said they weren’t 100% sure what happened, but they got it started using an external battery. No idea why it wouldn't start with me. But then they asked me something worrying: “Has it been overheating?” Not that I know of. Then again, I only ride it 30–40 minutes at a time commuting, so if it had a slow overheating issue, maybe I never noticed. They told me the coolant hoses were collapsing, and that with the radiator cap off, coolant shoots out when you rev it. They compression-tested all three cylinders, all came back fine. So now I'm hoping it's just the head gasket, and not a warped head or cracked block. It's only done 23,000 km, so hoping it’s repairable. A sad weekend for sure. Down 2hrs diagnostics so far.

Well glad you're ok, that could have easily been more serious, lucky. I've had a couple of near hits similar to that, on last year, even though technically it's still the other driver fault, in hindsight I've realised I could have avoided it. I still do the ocassaional thing and immeidatley after think why did I do that. I think everyone has that moment in time, when they're in a rush, stressed, distracted, wrong mindset etc we just need to work on reducing these times and be more aware of our mindset when riding. Obviously easier said then done.

Wonder what happened to my old YZF, sadly likely in a scrap heap somewhere now. Loved that bike, still one of the most fun bikes I've had.

Pure bike porn. New axle and nut at 100 lb-ft.

Buy some WD-40 Specialist Degreaser, it's citrus based so isn't an alkaline so won't damage the aluminium.

Hopefully it was just a near miss, everything ok?

I'd love to have a go with one, I can really see the benefit of commuting on one. I've been consiering changing my MT out for the last two years, have had enough of the whining triple noise. Sounds great when you're at high RPM around country twisties, but commuting to work my ears are crying. And yes I wear ear plugs. I'd love the quiet ride, BUT, I really feel the noise from motorbikes makes them safer. I still get people merge in to the side of me once a month, I'm on a loud bike, wear high-vis top, white helmet and try not to ride in blindspots and it still happens. I bet accident rates would skyrocket if everyone moved to electric bikes.

Hey all, it's finally happened! Yamaha recommends torquing the rear axle nut on the MT-09 to 108 lb-ft, which honestly seems pretty excessive. I’ve always stuck to 100 lb-ft using a proper calibrated torque wrench and I’ve still ended up with some thread wear on the axle and nut. I went to tighten the wheel and I had that horrid feeling of realising it turned to infinity. From what I’ve seen online over the years and now finally experienced myself, that high torque might be fine the first time with brand-new parts, but it’s not good if you’re adjusting your chain regularly. I think most of us are loosening and tightening the axle fairly often, and that kind of repetitive stress seems to slowly wear things down. I've learnt from this, as it's completely my own fault still, a 7 year old bike and I've never changed those parts. What I’m planning on doing now: Torquing to 95–100 lb-ft max, and that’s only if the threads are clean and in good shape. Swapping out the axle nut every once a year. If I use a bit of anti-seize, I will drop the torque a bit more maybe 90–95 lb-ft. So, when should you replace the Axle? I've researched this and can't find an actual recommendaion, I guess if the threads are still clean and not damaged, you can probably get years out of it, seems like 7 :) But if the nut doesn’t go on smoothly or you see any flattening, galling, or metal flecks… it’s probably time to bite the bullet and replace the axle. I’d now going to take it out and check it once a year. Curious to hear what others are doing with your bike, anyone using Loctite and going lower?

Subjective, but at least that one actually works.

Just seen this in my local news... luckily it's not near me. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/is-this-sydney-s-worst-roundabout-drivers-perplexed-by-bizarre-new-intersection-20250627-p5mapt.html

Welcome aboard Gary

Hi @mr bignal sorry was away for a long weekend. Easter and Anzac weekends over here so took a few days off in between. Just responded to your PM with your membership number, let me know how you get on. Cheers

Oooh two stroke... the best motorcross. Welcome aboard!

Wow that's shocking, obv he doens't need new customers.

You're not daft at all, this is a super common issue when switching to LED indicators on a bike. The problem happens because your old bulbs used more power, and your bike’s flasher relay was designed for that. LEDs use way less power, so the relay isn’t getting the right load, which makes both sides blink at the same time. Some bikes also have a single dash indicator light for both sides, and with LEDs, power can bleed through and activate both. The easiest fix is to replace your flasher relay with an LED-compatible one. Just swap out the old relay for an LED-specific version, and it should work normally. If that doesn’t fix it, you might need to add load resistors to each indicator, which trick the system into thinking the old bulbs are still there. Resistors take more effort to install, so try the relay first. If your dash light still causes weirdness after that, there’s a simple diode mod that can help, but one step at a time!

Have you tried checking with the https://www.lcclub.co.uk/

Hi @NE0 thanks for pointing out. The issue here is that the pinned posts will always stay on top. However I'm pretty confident those pinned posts were unpinned a long time back. I'm guessing v5 may handle them differently. Will go through and unpin where neccessary.

Well good news, applied the latest patch from support and the remaining issues I'm aware of appear fixed. Please let me know if there is anything else you spot. Well this will teach me to upgrade a bit too early. Sorry for all the issues everyone.

Happy new year all! Just back from a 7k km road trip with two screaming kids, never thought I'd be glad to be home 😂

There's a couple of other bikes which have been pulled over at the beginning on the video, bottom of the frame. The US is a crazy patch work of filtering/lane splitting regulations. The ironic thing is there's been quite a few large research pieces come out of the USA such as the HURT report and the SafeTREC research which proved that lane filtering in slow/stationary traffic is safer and reduces congestion.

Wow, just wow.

Model history 2013: Gen 1 - MT-09 arrives in dealers end September 2013 2016: Gen 2 - MT-09 facelift revealed 2017: Gen 2 - Revised MT-09 launched 2021: Gen 3 - MT-09 revealed 2023: Gen 4 - New MT-09/SP revealed (Oct 31/Nov 2) 2023: Gen 4 - Launch date TBC The core of the new MT-09 remains the characteristic 'CP3' three-cylinder motor, which was updated in 2021, and its cast aluminum Deltabox frame introduced in the same year. Moving on to the 2024 MT-09SP, it takes the foundation laid by the standard model and adds several enhancements. These include fully adjustable suspension, top-notch Brembo Stylema brake calipers, a customizable Track riding mode, an R1M superbike-inspired livery in black, blue, and silver, complete with a brushed aluminum swing arm. Notably, the MT-09SP introduces Yamaha's new 'Smart Key' keyless ignition system for the first time, a feature that adds a modern touch to the bike. While many aspects of the SP are similar to the standard MT-09 (which was already updated for 2024), it's worth reiterating some key features. The bike sports a 'slimmer, sharper new look' with a redesigned tank, new LED front light cluster, separate rear LED tail and brake lights, and a two-piece seat that matches the bodywork. The riding position is also updated, offering lower handlebars and higher pegs, both of which are adjustable. The MT-09SP incorporates a five-inch TFT dashboard and switchgear inspired by the latest Tracer 9 GT+ and Niken GT models. The standout features of the MT-09SP include its premium, fully adjustable suspension. This comprises gold-finished, DLC-coated 41mm KYB forks at the front and an Öhlins monoshock at the rear. The new forks offer complete adjustability for preload, rebound, and compression damping, while the Öhlins rear unit offers tweaks for compression and rebound, along with a remote preload adjuster. Brakes on the MT-09SP receive an upgrade with twin Brembo monoblock 'Stylema' calipers, providing superbike-class braking performance. The bike introduces an additional Track riding mode alongside the standard Sport, Street, and Rain modes, allowing riders to customize power, traction, braking, and more for various track scenarios. A dedicated Track theme is also featured on the TFT display. One of the standout features on the MT-09SP is Yamaha's new keyless 'Smart Key System.' This system replaces the conventional key slot with an 'on-off' switch at the top of the tank. It remains active as long as the Smart Key is within range and also offers a lock and unlock option for the fuel cap. The 2024 Yamaha MT-09SP is available in a striking R1M-inspired black, silver, and blue color scheme, complete with a brushed aluminum swing arm. Yamaha has yet to announce pricing and availability details. In summary, the 2024 Yamaha MT-09SP offers several notable upgrades, including enhanced suspension, improved brakes, and the introduction of a keyless ignition system. With its sporty design and advanced features, it's sure to attract motorcycle enthusiasts looking for a high-performance naked bike. MT-09 SP vs. MT-09 Standard: Suspension: The MT-09SP features premium fully-adjustable suspension, with gold-finished, DLC-coated 41mm KYB forks at the front and an Öhlins monoshock at the rear. In contrast, the standard MT-09 comes with non-adjustable suspension. Brakes: The MT-09SP is equipped with twin Brembo monoblock 'Stylema' calipers, providing superbike-class braking performance, while the standard MT-09 has upgraded brakes but not at the same level. Riding Modes: The MT-09SP offers a four additional Track riding modes alongside the standard Sport, Street, and Rain modes, allowing riders to customize power, traction, braking, and more for track scenarios. Exclusive TRACK display theme for new 5in full colour TFT dashboard. The standard MT-09 offers three riding modes without the Track mode. Smart Key System: The MT-09SP introduces Yamaha's new keyless 'Smart Key System,' allowing keyless ignition and a lock/unlock option for the fuel cap. The standard MT-09 uses a traditional key. Livery: The MT-09SP features an R1M superbike-inspired livery in black, blue, and silver, complete with a brushed aluminum swing arm. The standard MT-09 has a different color scheme. These differences make the MT-09SP a more performance-oriented and feature-rich variant, catering to riders who seek an even higher level of performance, adjustability, and premium components in their motorcycle. View full news

Model history 2013: Gen 1 - MT-09 arrives in dealers end September 2013 2016: Gen 2 - MT-09 facelift revealed 2017: Gen 2 - Revised MT-09 launched 2021: Gen 3 - MT-09 revealed 2023: Gen 4 - New MT-09/SP revealed (Oct 31/Nov 2) 2023: Gen 4 - Launch date TBC Bodywork and Styling Inspired by Yamaha's YZ motocross bikes, the 2024 MT-09 features bodywork that allows the rider more freedom of movement. The 'less is more' approach to styling reinforces the MT-09's aggressive look and enhances the riding experience. Sharper Lighting A more compact LED headlamp, enclosed in a re-designed cover, complements the bike's aggressive style. It offers a broad and powerful beam with soft edges for both low and high beam settings. Twin LED position lights add to the MT-09's sharp and aggressive look. The rear features a newly designed LED tail-light with a distinctive design. Fuel Tank Design The new fuel tank is designed to promote a more engaged and free riding position while maintaining the MT's edgy aesthetic. Produced using a new press moulding method, the tank offers sharper character with defined edges. Amplified CP3 Acoustics The MT-09's signature sound is amplified by a revised airbox with newly designed air-intake ducts. An acoustic amplifier grille enhances the sound, especially at higher speeds and revs, delivering a vibrant note to the rider. Redefined Riding Position Refined ergonomics, lower handlebars, and two adjustable handlebar positions enhance rider comfort and offer greater freedom of movement. Footrests are repositioned, and passenger footpegs are redesigned for improved comfort. New Brake and Gear Shift Pedals The rear brake pedal is now made from forged aluminum, and the gear shift pedal has a flattened tip for smoother operation. Separated Rider and Passenger Seats The MT-09 now features separated front and rear seats, improving rider position and convenience. The step between the seats keeps the rider forward and agile. A Type-C USB socket under the rider's seat allows for electronic device charging. Brembo Radial Master Cylinder The new Brembo radial master cylinder enhances stopping power, offering excellent controllability. An adjustable clutch lever provides further control during clutch engagement. Fully Adjustable Suspension and Tires The 41mm KYB front forks are fully adjustable, and the rear suspension linkage and KYB rear shock are modified for dynamic cornering. Bridgestone Battlax Hypersport S23 M tires offer high grip and light handling. 5in TFT Full-Color Screen The 2024 MT-09 features a new 5-inch TFT full-color screen with four different themes. Smartphone connectivity via the free MyRide app allows for call and message notifications, music playback, and Garmin StreetCross navigation. Intuitive New Switchgear New integrated handlebar switch assemblies allow for easy operation of various functions, including smartphone connectivity, navigation, and riding modes. Customizable Riding Modes Yamaha Ride Control (YRC) settings enable riders to customize engine power characteristics and electronic intervention levels. Three integrated riding modes (Sport, Street, Rain) and two custom modes provide personalized settings. Six-Axis IMU The MT-09 is equipped with a six-axis IMU that enhances electronic rider aids, including traction control, slide control, lift control, and brake control. A Back Slip Regulator (BSR) stabilizes the rear wheel under excessive engine braking. Cruise Control A cruise control system is operational in third gear and above, offering a relaxed option for motorway riding. Soft-Click Turn Signals and Quickshifter A soft-click of the indicator switch flashes the turn signals three times, and a full-click results in continuous flashing. The third-generation quickshifter enables clutchless shifts for a more natural feeling. Technical Highlights Sharp and compact design 5in full-color TFT screen with smartphone connectivity and navigation Customizable Yamaha Ride Control (YRC) settings Handlebar and footpeg position adjustments Separated seats Acoustic amplifier grille Latest 890cc CP3 engine Six-axis IMU with advanced rider aids Cruise control Brembo radial master cylinder Third-generation quickshifter New Bridgestone Battlax Hypersport S23 M tires Adjustable suspension Lightweight CF aluminum die-cast frame Yamaha SpinForged wheels Adjustable brake and clutch levers Colors, Availability, and Price The 2024 MT-09 is available in Midnight Cyan, Icon Blue, and Tech Black. Delivery dates and prices are to be announced. Yamaha Genuine Accessories A range of modular Yamaha Genuine accessories allows riders to customize their MT-09 for added functionality and style. MT Apparel and Riding Gear The extensive range includes hoodies, t-shirts, beanies, and CE-approved riding gear. MyRide App Yamaha’s free MyRide app offers all MT riders the chance to get more out of their riding experience with route tracking and creation, riding information such as lean angle, distance covered and more. Plus, users can create their own story, add pictures and share to social media and the MyRide community. For MT-09, MyRide is also the app that enables smartphone connectivity and customisable YRC settings. View full news