78250 Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi, am a newbie here and looking for some help if possible, this will probably be the first of many questions as im new to Yamaha in general, just bought a very rough 78 250, engine / frame no 2x9000137, im trying to get it running, problem is that 90% of the wiring has been removed, can anyone assist me by advising which colour wires from the CDI magneto need to go where to enable to get a spark at the plug, i am only interested in getting the engine running, will not be fitting any lights, I assume that with this system i do not need a battery to run the engine ? Thanks for any help, and im sure i will be back with lots more questions !
Moderator mervin Posted March 8, 2011 Moderator Posted March 8, 2011 Hi, am a newbie here and looking for some help if possible, this will probably be the first of many questions as im new to Yamaha in general, just bought a very rough 78 250, engine / frame no 2x9000137, im trying to get it running, problem is that 90% of the wiring has been removed, can anyone assist me by advising which colour wires from the CDI magneto need to go where to enable to get a spark at the plug, i am only interested in getting the engine running, will not be fitting any lights, I assume that with this system i do not need a battery to run the engine ? Thanks for any help, and im sure i will be back with lots more questions ! an intro in the noobs is the usual practice, ok it is a 78 250 but what model XS//DT/RD/TY Merv
78250 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 an intro in the noobs is the usual practice, ok it is a 78 250 but what model XS//DT/RD/TY Merv Hi Merv Thanks for the reply, sorry about the intro, new to forums in general, the bike has no documents, i have searched the web for model / seial numbers but cannot seem to find a model that matches the age, the frame and engine number are 2x9000137 and the makers plate states a 78 model, so im a bit stumped right now Thanks again for your response Gordon
Moderator mervin Posted March 8, 2011 Moderator Posted March 8, 2011 Could it be 2K9 that is the 1978 IT250 I cannot find a record of a 2X9 2X8 is it 400 1979 2x7 is it IT 250 1979 acording to what i can find
Speedshop Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 we make a cdi for the IT250. I'll see if we have a wiring diagram for it.
78250 Posted March 9, 2011 Author Posted March 9, 2011 we make a cdi for the IT250. I'll see if we have a wiring diagram for it. Thanks for the response, im late in writing back as i am in western Canada, just re-checked the numbers its definately 2x9000137 on both the frame and engine, manufactured in 9 / 78, on the lower right side of the cylinder base its stamped 246 cc, am trying to get a magneto flywheel puller to check points and condenser, looking through the 2 slots in the magneto i cant see any points but guess they are in there somewhere ? Thanks again
Moderator DirtyDT Posted March 9, 2011 Moderator Posted March 9, 2011 Thanks for the response, im late in writing back as i am in western Canada, just re-checked the numbers its definately 2x9000137 on both the frame and engine, manufactured in 9 / 78, on the lower right side of the cylinder base its stamped 246 cc, am trying to get a magneto flywheel puller to check points and condenser, looking through the 2 slots in the magneto i cant see any points but guess they are in there somewhere ? Thanks again Can you post a few pictures of the bike? This would help!!
blackhat250 Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 If its a1977/8 model. they were points, later models had Mitsibushi CDI [ FST 00172] unit, Look under side panel , beside battery, the CDI unit should be bolted there,
78250 Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 2X9 is a DT250F 1979 Thanks for all the replies, i contacted several Yamaha agents and one has confirmed as you say that the bike is a DT250F, the CDI box is missing so now looking for a used unit, will then need to find out which colour wires from the magneto unit go to the CDI box and coil, Thanks again for all your help
Speedshop Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 We have the 00172 unit -new- for £77.00 plus £8.85 shipping to Canada. Comes with one year warranty. I think that compares well to a second hand item that could be 20 years (plus) old.
78250 Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 We have the 00172 unit -new- for £77.00 plus £8.85 shipping to Canada. Comes with one year warranty. I think that compares well to a second hand item that could be 20 years (plus) old. Hi, Thanks for the info, i agree that is a good price, if i went ahead with a purchase could you assist with info re which colour wires i connect from the magneto / stator coils to the coil unit to obtain a spark, i am only interested in running the engine and not supplying power for lights etc Do you accept PayPal ? Thanks Gordon
Speedshop Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Hi, Thanks for the info, i agree that is a good price, if i went ahead with a purchase could you assist with info re which colour wires i connect from the magneto / stator coils to the coil unit to obtain a spark, i am only interested in running the engine and not supplying power for lights etc Do you accept PayPal ? Thanks Gordon That should be no problem running just the cdi with no lights, just leave the plugs from the generator that don't connect to the CDi un connected. Yes we accept pay pal, you can also use a normal credit/debit card at the check out. If you e-mail [email protected] we can send a money request.
blackhat250 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Hi guys , the C.D.I Original part Number For DT250F . is 2N6-85540-21. I have wiring diagram on CD, tryed to copy and paste , but no go. if you can check this is the one your repro is matched for Speedshop. just to make shure,
Speedshop Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Hi guys , the C.D.I Original part Number For DT250F . is 2N6-85540-21. I have wiring diagram on CD, tryed to copy and paste , but no go. if you can check this is the one your repro is matched for Speedshop. just to make shure, The DT250F is different its the F8T800 box. This is our part number DT5 We don't have stock at present, lead time is approx 2 weeks. I've been building a comprehensive data base for these bikes. I've started work on it you can see how far I've got on my website (link below). I'm about 50% there with the IT/DT/YZ/MX machines 73-82.
78250 Posted March 13, 2011 Author Posted March 13, 2011 The DT250F is different its the F8T800 box. This is our part number DT5 We don't have stock at present, lead time is approx 2 weeks. I've been building a comprehensive data base for these bikes. I've started work on it you can see how far I've got on my website (link below). I'm about 50% there with the IT/DT/YZ/MX machines 73-82. Hi Guys First of all Thanks very much for your help with this, i now need to think about what to do next, before buying a CDI box i need to be sure that i can install and wire it to produce a spark, the issue i have is that the bike has been robbed of all its wiring and connectors, so all i have are the wires coming out of the magneto / flywheel without a connector plug attached, the coil unit is present but no wire to it, i will try to locate a wiring diagram or perhaps another bike to copy the colour of wires and correct connections from Magneto to CDI box and then to coil unit. will get back to you if i am succesfull ! Thanks once again Gordon
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