thanks for the welcome, im from anglesey, north wales, all the places i spoke to want 75 for checking the frame before any work starts on it, they say its a couple of hours work to set it up on the jig then another couple of hours to slowly pull it back to where it should be, so i think all in all its easier and cheaper to hold out for another frame. the bike still rides ok i dont think its twisted in any way from all the measuring and checking that ive done so theres no big rush to get a new frame