Nutler Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Hi all, i have recently purchased a Frankenstein dt , thought it was a dt125lc (engine is anyway) but when checking the numbers I find that I can’t identify the year for certain. The frame appears to be a dt175mx but I get differing info for it’s year, and the engine I recognise as a dt125lc but again I cannot seem to accurately date it. I need to obtain a V5 and really need to know the ages involved. If the frame is 175mx then the engine will be changed for a more appropriate one, but would still be nice to know the engine age as well as frame if possible. frame number. 2k400612**. Last two numbers hidden for obvious reasons. engine number. 2Y50043**. Again last two hidden If anyone can provide any info on this I would really appreciate it. I have contacted Yamaha but no response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted March 29, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Nutler said: Hi all, i have recently purchased a Frankenstein dt , thought it was a dt125lc (engine is anyway) but when checking the numbers I find that I can’t identify the year for certain. The frame appears to be a dt175mx but I get differing info for it’s year, and the engine I recognise as a dt125lc but again I cannot seem to accurately date it. I need to obtain a V5 and really need to know the ages involved. If the frame is 175mx then the engine will be changed for a more appropriate one, but would still be nice to know the engine age as well as frame if possible. frame number. 2k400612**. Last two numbers hidden for obvious reasons. engine number. 2Y50043**. Again last two hidden If anyone can provide any info on this I would really appreciate it. I have contacted Yamaha but no response. The frame is an MX, a late early model if that makes sense, should have a round sw arm. Known as a 2K4, chassis number 2k4-000101 on. The subsequent 2X2 and 4J4 model codes (little different to look at) were 2k4-01 and 2k4-02. So def early mx. Cant help much with the engine number but there were some cross over mongrels of lc and mx parts bin match ups. Things in the early 80@s were not as exacting as they are now. The early LC was quite literally a Mx bottom end with a water pump and and a barrel pinched from an rd 250. An lc barrel fits a 125/175 bottom end if your interested. No idea if it would run, port height, deck heights etc?. But illustrates the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE0 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Mines an early DT175MX with round tube swinging arm first registered in May79 but built in 1978. The number is 2K4 3XXX. That might give you an idea or at least a date to work from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted March 30, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2019 The first round arm type were 78-79 the middle one was only available for a few months in 79 then the last 4j4 model ran till as late as 85 with the very last of the stock as they couldn't give them away because of the learner laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutler Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hi, thank you for comments. I have now cleaned a bit more paint off the frame numbers and it appears to me that it has been re stamped, it just doesn’t look right. The frame has quite a few differences to a 2k4 (as stamped) but can’t seem to find a similar frame photo to compre. The is a bulbous nodule on the upright that the radiator frame screws to that is not present on a yz or a Dt. I have photos but can’t see how to upload them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Nutler said: Hi, thank you for comments. I have photos but can’t see how to upload them. Uploading pictures is easy Log into postimage.org Upload your pictures into postimage Once you have uploaded pictures click on hotlink for forums and copy url paste in here On the link there are 2 x https text. You may need to delete the s at the end of each, you may not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Hill Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I also need to obtain a v5c log book for a really early dt175mx ? Not sure if the bike is an import or uk bike, frame number is 2k4 0005xx & the numbers are good and not messed with. Hope someone can help me, Many thanks in advance Regards, Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLee Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 How did you get on Ronnie? Need to register an old DT myself and wondering what the procedure is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted September 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 6:01 PM, ScottLee said: How did you get on Ronnie? Need to register an old DT myself and wondering what the procedure is... Paul Dawkins might be able to help, try the aircooled RD forum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLee Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Airhead said: Paul Dawkins might be able to help, try the aircooled RD forum? I got an email address off the DVLC website which was for something "air-cooled". I sent an email to the address and got a reply saying yes no problem, just send us some pictures of the bike, frame and engine numbers along with I think £30 and they'd issue a dating certificate. I haven't done anything as yet as have other priorities with the bike... Where I'm not too sure about what to do is with the Nova because apparently it's a German bike and I don't know how long it's been in the country or whether it's been imported properly or not. I have half an idea what to do and will find out as soon as I start filling forms in but again it's low down on my list although thinking about it, I should probably put it near the top before I do too much to this bike, just in case like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted September 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2020 Job number 1 is to make sure you have ownership and no duties/debts/losses owed by the bike caused by previous owners or commitments to previous owners. Would be a real shit to get work done only to find it was a total write off a few years ago, or you get it finished register it and then the police turn up, thank you for your efforts and take it away because its stolen property. It is literally job 1, i cannot emphasize this enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 If its from the EU, thers no Vat due,,, they will issue a N,O,V,A, number, you need to do it online,, Gov.co.uk,,,,,Sign up,,,then select Nova section ,, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLee Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 8:42 PM, Airhead said: Paul Dawkins might be able to help, try the aircooled RD forum? Sent payment off then went to send pictures and they bounced because apparently his mailbox is full. Sent a message without pictures, hopefully he gets back to me soon... On 9/25/2020 at 10:42 AM, Cynic said: Job number 1 is to make sure you have ownership and no duties/debts/losses owed by the bike caused by previous owners or commitments to previous owners. Would be a real shit to get work done only to find it was a total write off a few years ago, or you get it finished register it and then the police turn up, thank you for your efforts and take it away because its stolen property. It is literally job 1, i cannot emphasize this enough. Point taken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLee Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 All sorted. Dating certificate in the post 22 hours ago, blackhat250 said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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