Troosers Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hi folks, I've not been on here for a long while, so feel a bit of a cad asking for help. I took the Divi out last Friday, it was a really naff day with lots of mucky spray. Got to the local bike shop and whilst manoeuvring to park, the bike cut out. I thought, what a numpty you've stalled it, but when I tried to start it there were no electrics. I'll say at this point, there were no issues with the ride in, and that this was an immediate terminal issue. It was like I'd hit the kill switch. With some movement of the bars, I got the ignition lights but when you hit the starter there is a click under the seat and everything disappears again. My knowledge of electrics is minimal, but I have; checked and cleaned the battery terminals and main earth to the engine, checked and cleaned the terminals on the coils and getting the correct resistance readings from both, Checked the pick-up coil and getting the correct resistance here too Any other suggestions before it goes to a professional? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neversaydie Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 If wiggling the bars brought the idiot lights on, that suggests to me a loose broken connection somewhere in that area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted February 14, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2015 yep if moving the bars around gives lights then no lights etc I'd suspect a broken wire in the loom, maybe in the head stem area? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troosers Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Thanks guys, I've had a quick look round the bars earlier today and didn't see anything obvious (cuts or bare wire), but I'll have a better look tomorrow. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 You got a meter andy " get it on continuity [ bleep] , trace the broken wire [ move bars,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troosers Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Yeah, got a meter. Have located ignition leads and info as to which connectors should give continuity on which settings, so will check that tomorrow too. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnerz89 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 As above. Check wiring loom in and around ignition barrel. I had a similar issue a while ago, snapped wire coming out of the ignition barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Same issue on my boys 535. Depending what way the bars were pulled, it would lose all power. Disconnected wiring in headlamp and stripped loom back to where it goes through the steering head and there was a broken wire. Relieved it was a simple find and fix. Obviously it had been under strain when manoeuvring the bars around causing it to fail. If you can try gripping the loom around the steering head area and wiggle it around see if the power comes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Just check that your battery terminals are clean and tight before delving any further . I know wiggling the bars seemed to be leading to your problem but just check anyway . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 For anyone who is trying to trace electrical problems without a multimeter , a battery and bulb can be put to good use for checking for broken wires etc . They can often break inside the insulation and can be hard to find . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troosers Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Thanks for the input guys. Cheers Kev, the battery and main earth was where I started. Like electricity I always go for the easiest route Got to take the wife out today, but should get a couple of hours on bike later. Will post up any further findings. Thanks again. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Another one, if your bike is second hand - Many previous owners mis-route wires around the headstock and the wires get caught in the steering stops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troosers Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 So yesterday didn't go well at all. Checked loads of stuff with no positive results. Time to get someone in. Got a local mobile mechanic who appears to know electrics coming over next Monday. Will post up any findings. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Did you check where the wires are soldered onto the ignition barrel , the solder can let go sometimes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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