waterfalls Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I now practice riding nearly 2-3 hours on my YBR125. But today was decidedly was feeling cold in fingers. Perhaps its my age. On market there are wide range from Oxford heated grips around £80 to cheap Chinese heated one at £5 which you wrap around your existing bar grips and then put a shrinking sleeve on top. Any personal experiences would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator DirtyDT Posted November 19, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2013 I wouldn't buy a cheap kit. Oxford ones are OK. A decent set work quite well and the difference is noticeable. Another (and better if you can handle the ribbing) way of keeping your hands warmer are handlebar muffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFJ1200 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 On my X-mas list as well. Lots of them on offer on the Bay but I'd shy away from 2nd hand/previously used. Aren't the grips glued to the handlebars ? Brand new in box would be the ones to go for. Are they one size fits all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Some 125s have trouble with getting enough power to the grips. Be mindful of this and read up a bit. There is a great post on here (by Toutsuite, I believe) about how to calculate the exact outputs and whether you have enough to add hot grips in. I have a bookmark to it, but it's at work and I won't be back for a few days. Maybe someone else can oblige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterfalls Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ttaskmaster, would appreciate bookmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I got it wrong - It was actually Gizmo who explained it (sorry Giz, but it was 2 years ago!): I have been working on putting together a complete map of the 650 Electrical system with wattages,etc so folks understand a bit better exactly how much you can add and what you can expect to be the outcome of adding extras. The following items on the bike use the power constantly: Headlight - 55W Taillight - 8W Front Running lights - 16W Speedo light - 2W Ignition Coils - 72W Ignition Module - 20W This means that under normal running conditions the bike will use at least 173W of power.According to the test data from Electrosport in their comparison of their stator to the stock one, the stock system puts out 169W at idle(1200RPM) and 221W at 5000RPM. Yamaha states that the stock system puts out 280W Max so most bikes will fall between the 221W and 280W marks. Here are some additional power usages: Signalling - 28W Braking - 27W Carb Heaters - 60W Passing lamps - 60W (smaller units) - 110W (larger lamps) The carb heaters kick in when the temps are lower than 12 degrees Celsius.What this means is that the bike will consume 173W + 60W = 233W of power when the carb heaters are on. My 2000 Classic puts out something like 235W-240W at 5000 RPM which is barely enough to keep the system running without using the battery while highway riding only. At idle, the charging system cannot keep up and an additional 64W are drawn from the battery. I have a battery monitor on my bike and was able to verify the above. I'm sure the “My battery died” posts are going to start now that the weather is getting cooler and a lot of folks falsely blame the battery when it is actually the weak charging system and too many electrical accessories that are to blame. Bottom line is that if you ride in temps lower than 12 degrees Celsius, you had better not run your passing lamps or any other extra lights or you will drain the battery and have difficulty starting. Hope that helps! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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