TheSaffer Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Hi, I have recently had my 2004 R1 in for repairs with my local bike mechanic. Tonight I noticed a whining noise coming from the engine and then all of a sudden the sound of metal rolling around inside the engine. So being curious, I started the engine up again and it sounded ok-ish, but then when I wanted to switch it on again, it will not turn the engine over. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have put a clip on youtube where you can hear the whining noise before you cold hear metal rolling around. http://youtu.be/Zvz6LQxg7t8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Saffer I would say you contact the original garage. Plan what you want to say (even to the point of writing it all down), do not lose your rag no matter how annoyed you get. Give them a chance to diagnose the fault and see what they're going to do about it. Then take it from there. If no joy contact either citizens advice centre, or even trading standards and go from there. But first contact the original garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaffer Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 Thank you, I will try to stay calm. I'll give them a chance as you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Ha" that pitza boy left you for dead.. . how recent was the work done, how many miles since,,, they"l look for any excuse, And is it the clutch,, or starter/// they"re work, ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwan Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 burn the garage down, it is your only option...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 burn the garage down, it is your only option...... They"rs " not yours.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilninggas Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 If you phone them you must record the conversation; in fact all communication with them, whatever the form must be recorded so that they can't change or backtrack on what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaffer Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 hmmm, I have now connected a battery pack to the bike and she starts up fine. The problem is that when I remove the battery pack, the dreaded error code 46 comes up. So this makes me think that the fault is not at all related to the work the mechanic has done. The stator might have come off and that was what I heard as metal parts rolling around the engine. Just hope it was the only damage done. Will recover it on Monday morning and take it to a garage. (A different dealer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjh357 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If you really want legal advice talk to a solicitor a lot of car motorcycle home insurance AA RAC cover etc have access to a legal advice centre even if they won’t act for you, even you union if you are in one might help. Never and I do mean never ever act on what’s his names advice whose dads uncles cousins mom had the same problem. Everyone knows someone that knows someone that said this is how it is; fact is any 2 people in court both expect to win but one of them wont. Let the guy have a chance to see what it is and if it is related to what he did or not, and don’t burn his garage down it might have nothing to do with him. I am an engineer myself and the first thing most people say when I get to a broken machine is well it was working yesterday or this morning or even before they went for brake. Always remember everything that is broken was usually working just before it broke, I am not saying you didn’t have shoddy workmanship it happens but you do need to make sure of your facts first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 burn the garage down, it is your only option...... I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure!! But yeah, see what they say. If it's their fault, you might get some compensation or some fancy extras, free servicing or who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaffer Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just an update. The alternator magnet came out and mashed up everything else. Cost of new repair : £909Thats just under 2k spent on this R1 in one month! Just hope that there is nothing else left to break now... Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilninggas Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just an update. The alternator magnet came out and mashed up everything else. Cost of new repair : £909 Thats just under 2k spent on this R1 in one month! Just hope that there is nothing else left to break now... Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk 4 ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaffer Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 I just want to know if it was possible that the generator was damaged when work was done on the starter? Seems odd that the generator magnets came out just days after the starter (parts) was replaced. Anyone? Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up.yours Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 fatigue ! maybe .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I would say that if they had to take the generator out when they fixed the starter then almost certainly they are the cause of the damage, but if they just removed one part and replaced it then no they are not responsible. You have to find out what they removed to get the original problem sorted and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I thought it was odd that the magnets came loose to begin with,not something that happens to altenators unless they get droped hard. Most altenators get re built several time using the old magnets. I haven't worked on a r1 so I can't say if it's a problem but I haven't hear of it happenninng, I would take the time to search the R1 forum and see if it has happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Get them to fix it and then, pre-payment, take off and nuke their entire site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure!! I'll try and run this past my mechanic-friend, as he's a big fan and former owner of R1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaffer Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated. Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I asked... but he said he'd have to actually see it in person to ascertain how the damage occurred. You're not anywhere near Reading, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaffer Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 No I'm not. Thanks anyway. I'm going to pick it up and see exactly what the problem was. Thanks very much again. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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