blackhat250 Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 Aye dirty " youve finnished the TS250 and put it on ebay i see ,,,, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1980-Suzuki-ER-TS-250cc-Classic-Bike-YELLOW-/250828286729?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D230626424331%252B230626424331%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D414473169714440297
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 5, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 5, 2011 Aye dirty " youve finnished the TS250 and put it on ebay i see ,,,, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1980-Suzuki-ER-TS-250cc-Classic-Bike-YELLOW-/250828286729?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D230626424331%252B230626424331%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D414473169714440297 It's in better condition than mine I did look at this yesterday as this ER model has the same forks as mine, although mine is pre-ER (or should that be Intensive care ). It does say 95% complete so just missing the other 5% like the exhaust, clocks, lights, side panels and the rest of the stuff that is probably missing!!!!
2 Wheels Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 Now now you two................. I tried the belt method. No go. I put the fork back into the yolk, positioned lower down the fork so that the cap was not pinching the cap. It holds fine so I strapped it to the bike stand to stop it moving but I still can not get the cap to turn. Another thing to try for ya,,,although i thaught the belt trik would work. Fork into yoke about 3 inches from top and tighten,,,,,,boil the kettle,,,,,,soak a rag in the boiled water,,,,,wrap it round the fork on the 3 inches,,,,,let it warm up the fork for a min then try open the cap Worth a shot !
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 5, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 5, 2011 Cheers Pat, a top tip I think. I did think of heat, although a flame, fork oil and chrome legs should be a no, no. A hot kettle is a good idea. The only problem is that each time it boils, I make a cuppa I am leaving the bike for today as I will wait for my purchases to turn up but I will give it the kettle later on and some Plusgas. If I do a few day's worth it may just be enough. I have been off work this week so not used the SV so I have just put that on the Optimate and I need to oil and adjust the chain for the run to Lincoln fest next week so I will be doing this next Saturday. There are other parts I could be getting on with but until the engine tools turn up I will concentrate on the forks and swingarm bolt.
NEV Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 Cheers Pat, a top tip I think. I did think of heat, although a flame, fork oil and chrome legs should be a no, no. A hot kettle is a good idea. The only problem is that each time it boils, I make a cuppa I am leaving the bike for today as I will wait for my purchases to turn up but I will give it the kettle later on and some Plusgas. If I do a few day's worth it may just be enough. I have been off work this week so not used the SV so I have just put that on the Optimate and I need to oil and adjust the chain for the run to Lincoln fest next week so I will be doing this next Saturday. There are other parts I could be getting on with but until the engine tools turn up I will concentrate on the forks and swingarm bolt. If you try Two Wheels way and get no joy, whilst it's still clamped up get a tea towel or similar loop it around the area you want the heat getting to, and pull backwards and forwards as if polishing it but give it some welly mind, you're giving it "chinese burns" so to speak.
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 5, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 5, 2011 If you try Two Wheels way and get no joy, whilst it's still clamped up get a tea towel or similar loop it around the area you want the heat getting to, and pull backwards and forwards as if polishing it but give it some welly mind, you're giving it "chinese burns" so to speak. It sounds very "boy scoutish" . I'm more used to up and down
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 11, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 11, 2011 Well the good news is that several tools arrived this week. The 600mm breaker bar is the dogs. Sealey professional range and is very substantial. Recommended LINKY I also got a rotor puller and a holding tool However, even with the boiling water and Plusgas regime over the week, the cap still will not budge. I have now knackered the cap so I may have to drill it in several places, to break the caps integrity, and then get it off. They are now unobtainable, but hay ho. No time at the moment to do much on this as work has kept me busy.
Moderator Cynic Posted June 11, 2011 Moderator Posted June 11, 2011 Well the good news is that several tools arrived this week. The 600mm breaker bar is the dogs. Sealey professional range and is very substantial. Recommended LINKY I also got a rotor puller and a holding tool However, even with the boiling water and Plusgas regime over the week, the cap still will not budge. I have now knackered the cap so I may have to drill it in several places, to break the caps integrity, and then get it off. They are now unobtainable, but hay ho. No time at the moment to do much on this as work has kept me busy. Boiling water, huh, thats not hot. Get a heat gun on it that will get it hot then it will come out. Not failed yet on my DT. Keep going till the WD smokes just heating the tube not the cap then its hot enough
Moderator Airhead Posted June 11, 2011 Moderator Posted June 11, 2011 Get a feckin 12mm nut welded on it and use a socket...as well as heat. That way you will still have the use of it while you source another.
NEV Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 I have now knackered the cap so I may have to drill it in several places, to break the caps integrity, and then get it off. They are now unobtainable, but hay ho. DT, if you're gunna have to bugger up the cap, and replacements are unobtainable, can you not get in touch with fellow forum member Wayno, any millwright worth his salt, should be able to knock up a couple of those end caps in an hour or so.
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 11, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 11, 2011 Cycnic/OG - when you say heat, are you saying paint stripper heat or blow torch heat? Nev - I should be able to get someone at work to turn me a couple. I am waiting for a guy who has a set of forks to contact me so lets hope that becomes an option too. Just minor hiccups. Funny how some things are seized on and some were covered in copperite
Moderator Airhead Posted June 11, 2011 Moderator Posted June 11, 2011 Cycnic/OG - when you say heat, are you saying paint stripper heat or blow torch heat? ........ Electric hot air gun to start with, if thats not enough careful use of a gas torch perhaps? of course either may damage the o ring within but if needs be...
barkwindjammer Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 mmmmm, think a gas torch would be too fierce a heat Paul, ok, another bonkers idea to try send the missus out for the day with the credit card (she'll be out for ages) fill an old chip pan with oil-put it on the barbie til its hot, cooking oil will reach about 300°C and will give a nice uniform heat, transfer to the bondage device in the vice, spray the cap with your freeze spray - et viola film these events for you-tube-it could be a classic !
barkwindjammer Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 I love the teamwork on this forum Ttasky will be along shortly with his 'Thermitetm' recipe
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 11, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 11, 2011 mmmmm, think a gas torch would be too fierce a heat Paul, ok, another bonkers idea to try send the missus out for the day with the credit card (she'll be out for ages) fill an old chip pan with oil-put it on the barbie til its hot, cooking oil will reach about 300°C and will give a nice uniform heat, transfer to the bondage device in the vice, spray the cap with your freeze spray - et viola film these events for you-tube-it could be a classic ! You certainly lived up to your nickname with that one BWJ!. You Scots will deep fry anything I can get a set of forks from the states for £82 including postage but plus the import duty and they are the ones with the better type tops. Rather that than walk around the house with a full, hot chip pan. I don't have a chip pan anyway, would a slow cooker do?
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 14, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 14, 2011 I had an email yesterday from the guy I brought my spare engine from who said he would contact me about other bits he had. He sent me some pictures and a few bits were too far gone to consider. I have however said that I would have the following from him (all in need of some work); Headlight brackets (That makes 2 sets) Exhaust rear heatshield (that makes 3 I have) Chain guide (another triple) Cylinder head (That makes 4 including a NOS one) Barrel with reed valve (I have 2, and although they fit, they are for the later model. This one is correct for the year) Exhaust (quite a few patches but looks solid in the pictures so hopefully better than the one I already have and I have a plan) Pair of forks (Bad chrome but the caps will come in handy and the rest for spares) So one of all the above (forks being one pair) for £80 with an estimate of £15 for the postage. Lets see if the deal goes through and what turns up.
philmountains Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 I had an email yesterday from the guy I brought my spare engine from who said he would contact me about other bits he had. He sent me some pictures and a few bits were too far gone to consider. I have however said that I would have the following from him (all in need of some work); Headlight brackets (That makes 2 sets) Exhaust rear heatshield (that makes 3 I have) Chain guide (another triple) Cylinder head (That makes 4 including a NOS one) Barrel with reed valve (I have 2, and although they fit, they are for the later model. This one is correct for the year) Exhaust (quite a few patches but looks solid in the pictures so hopefully better than the one I already have and I have a plan) Pair of forks (Bad chrome but the caps will come in handy and the rest for spares) So one of all the above (forks being one pair) for £80 with an estimate of £15 for the postage. Lets see if the deal goes through and what turns up. Wow thats sounds like a realy great deal there by the way Picked up the Julys Motorcycle Mechs in Tescos and theres a Article re Fork rebuilds might be of interest. All the best Phil
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 22, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 22, 2011 Cheers Phil, I have a Tescos Extra in the next road so I will pick one up. I did end up buying the list I mentioned. Postage was only £10 but I am waiting for the bits to turn up . I haven't had a chance to do much on the DT due to work and the SV needing a speedo drive. I ended up buying one from German ebay for £25 and it turned up today - I hope it is not in KPH . I also need to have the SV MOT'ed within the next few weeks and it needs it's 15,000 miles service.
Moderator DirtyDT Posted June 22, 2011 Author Moderator Posted June 22, 2011 There is a nice TS on ebay - slightly earlier than mine - if anyone wants a bargain LINKY.
philmountains Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Cheers Phil, I have a Tescos Extra in the next road so I will pick one up. I did end up buying the list I mentioned. Postage was only £10 but I am waiting for the bits to turn up . I haven't had a chance to do much on the DT due to work and the SV needing a speedo drive. I ended up buying one from German ebay for £25 and it turned up today - I hope it is not in KPH . I also need to have the SV MOT'ed within the next few weeks and it needs it's 15,000 miles service. DD have you noticed that stuff from Germany on Ebay is bloody dear these days, got my clocks from there a few years ago and was lucky in MPH, also a good few years ago got a bucket full of DT bits rom Germany for a very good price is it the Euro ???? Like I said every time I look at the TS pic on your page takes me back to 1978
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