Thank's blackhat . I did finally figure it out yesterday , it was when the manual was telling me to turn the flywheel counterclockwise 4 turns that was confusing me .I got it to run this morning but it has no power coming off idle . I tried adjusting the pilot air screw as described in the manual but it had no effect . I am guessing I still have a problem with the carburetor . I know the slot in the screw is tore up so no telling what may be buggered up . Odd though that it idles reasonably well with a air pilot issue . I'll have to figure out what rebuild kit I need for it and take a closer look at the air pilot passages . BTW take a look at my introduction , it was actually easer for me to make the gauge holder and flywheel puller from scratch , less than a hour each . cheers