thanks guys - i'll think about it if that's ok?, i do have a few bike cartoons kicking around somewhere. As far as character stuff is concerned, that's more difficult, when i've been asked to do leaving cards at work the best ones have been people i know well, the others get a bit stiff, can't think of another word for it, 'cardboard cutout' maybe, if you know what i mean and don't work so well. it's the same with bikes so i'd end up drawing xjs every time but thank you though