Gerry Moore Posted May 7, 2008 Posted May 7, 2008 Hi all, new to the forum and back to bikes after a long abscence..........Going to look at a 2003 Fazer in about 3 hours...would love any hints as to what to look out for.....it's one owner (female) 6,000 miles with fsh, has belly pan and few other bits and sounds a bargain at 2,400 euros....any quick replies appreciated. cheers Gerry Moore
Gerry Moore Posted May 8, 2008 Author Posted May 8, 2008 Hi all, new to the forum and back to bikes after a long abscence..........Going to look at a 2003 Fazer in about 3 hours...would love any hints as to what to look out for.....it's one owner (female) 6,000 miles with fsh, has belly pan and few other bits and sounds a bargain at 2,400 euros....any quick replies appreciated. cheers Gerry Moore Hi again Too late...bought it!!! Bike is like brand new but has been standing 6 months and when started runs like a pig....only runs with choke and won't rev........suspect dirty/stale fuel ???? Any ideas welcomed...thanks
Kash Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 Hi again Too late...bought it!!! Bike is like brand new but has been standing 6 months and when started runs like a pig....only runs with choke and won't rev........suspect dirty/stale fuel ???? Any ideas welcomed...thanks Definatly try some different fuel first... Maybe some plugs too.
Paul Mc Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 Change the fuel, but also check the airbox (wouldn't be the first bike to be home to mice after standing a while). 2003 model with FSH and only 6K miles should start sweet (mine has 5000 miles, no problems starting (and no choke in this weather). I'd guess that the carbs are a little gummed up with residue from the petrol, running more through should clean it but you might want to think about one of those products for dissolving crud in carbs (added to the fuel) for the first tankful or two, rather than stripping the carbs apart. My bike sits for up to 3 months at a time (each winter) without running and always starts and runs fine, but then it's not sat in Spain with the higher temperatures that'd drive off more fuel I guess... Paul http://fazerowners.yuku.com/
Gerry Moore Posted May 8, 2008 Author Posted May 8, 2008 Thanks for the advice guys.......bike is being delivered - by transit van!! - on Saturday....meanwhile I'll get some plugs, some clean fresh fuel and maybe an air filter. Can't see there being much wrong with it, the bike is absolutely gorgeous almost like out of the showroom and has a full yamaha service history. Can't beleive I got it at such a good price - hope it has four pistons inside!!!! Another query....anyone recommend an oil...I always use 100% synthetic in my car but not sure if this is suitable with a wet clutch?? Thanks again ps. absolutely piddling down here last two days.....always the same when you lot have sunshine in the UK!!!
Gerry Moore Posted May 18, 2008 Author Posted May 18, 2008 Me again......... Well it wasn't the fuel, and it's not the plugs but it's only running on three cylinders.......No.2 isn't getting warm. Anyone got any quick ideas I can try......I seem to be getting a spark (seems weak on all plugs???) and I've swapped plugs over........I realise it could be a blocked jet but they seem a bit awkward to get at!......presume I'd have to remove the whole carb assembly??? Far as I know, the last owner rode it through some VERY heavy rain over here last October...that was the last time it was used...could that give any clues?? Be grateful for any advice..........
yoda Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Me again......... Well it wasn't the fuel, and it's not the plugs but it's only running on three cylinders.......No.2 isn't getting warm. Anyone got any quick ideas I can try......I seem to be getting a spark (seems weak on all plugs???) and I've swapped plugs over........I realise it could be a blocked jet but they seem a bit awkward to get at!......presume I'd have to remove the whole carb assembly??? Far as I know, the last owner rode it through some VERY heavy rain over here last October...that was the last time it was used...could that give any clues?? Be grateful for any advice.......... You should see a big fat spark with no compression. Under compression it is harder for a plug to spark so if its starts weak then there won't be much to run the bike. Check that the engine ground to battery is good and that the plug caps are clean.
Gerry Moore Posted May 19, 2008 Author Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks Yoda It certainly isn't what I'd call a fat spark........funnily enough a friend came over yesterday and we had another 'go' at it. When it very first starts, it seems to be running on all 4 for a few seconds, then cuts to three...if you hold the revs steady at say 4000 then you can feel the bike trying to pick up and the revs climb and fall, but it won't tick over at all and sounds bloomin awful at low revs. There is fuel in all the float bowls and we tried getting a hand inside the airbox and there is suction from no 2 carb. I'm going to get new plugs (from somewhere...yamaha dealers arn't thick on the ground round here!!) this week and meantime I'll check out the earths as you suggest. Must admit I'm a bit baffled and don't really want to start taking the carbs off unnecessarily.......... Do you know if it's possible (and worth trying) for me to swap the coils over???
Gerry Moore Posted May 21, 2008 Author Posted May 21, 2008 Managed to get new plugs but no different. Now convinced there is a blockage in the carb that feeds no.2 cylinder as the plug still looks brand new after running the bike for a few minutes........so I'm in the process of removing the carbs. Need to get some longer allen keys to reach the carb clips so will get them today........airbox is disconnected and I'm about to drain the coolant ( anyone know if this is really necessary or can I put clips on the hoses???).....not a lot of room to work in there!!!! Has anyone who has removed their carbs before got any tips for me....it's a very long time since I worked on bikes...seem to remember the screws and jets are always very tight and used to be afraid of breaking them......is wd40 a good idea?? Any replies welcomed. cheers from a not so sunny Spain!!!!
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