Admin Alex Posted January 14, 2004 Admin Share Posted January 14, 2004 Another government stealth tax! Outrage over £5 'tax' on speeding fines By Stewart Tendler, Crime Correspondent A PLAN to add a £5 surcharge to speeding fines to finance support schemes for victims of crime was denounced last night as an unfair and illogical tax. The surcharge would also be imposed for other fixed-penalty offences, such as drunkenness, throwing fireworks or making hoax 999 calls. More serious offences would attract a higher levy — from £10 for failing to give police a driver’s details to £30 for someone sentenced to jail or community service. Pubs and bars would also have to contribute to victims’ schemes to emphasise the links between alcohol and antisocial behaviour, while employers, rather than the taxpayer, would have to compensate workers criminally injured while on duty. The surcharges and savings in the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme are expected to raise up to £25 million, which would be used to set up a new victims’ fund. The cash would be given to local support groups and be used to finance helplines and other schemes, but would not go directly to individuals. The levies are proposed in a consultation paper, Compensation and Support for Victims of Crime, which says: “We believe that making a small payment towards victims could form an important part of the reparation of an offender.” But motoring groups, penal reformers, opposition MPs and even victim support organisations said that the charges would engender public anger — especially when there is already widespread concern about the growing number of speed cameras. The charges, which follow hard on the heels of £80 instant fines for people who fail to renew their car tax on time and £60-a-day penalties for filing late tax returns, come at a time when Gordon Brown is struggling to deal with mounting stresses on the public finances. The Chancellor is pressing ahead with his ambitious public services spending drive even though tax revenues are falling far short of Treasury hopes. To avoid big tax rises before the election, Mr Brown has had to borrow more and many departments are expected to feel the pinch in a tough Comprehensive Spending Review this summer. David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, has already fought losing battles with the Treasury for more funds and many will see the surcharges as a means of raising some of the money he wants. Introducing the consultation paper yesterday, he said: “We want compensation to victims to be targeted in the right way, and to come from the most appropriate sources. With these proposals we want to look at the perpetrators as well as the State.” Critics, however, said that it was unfair to expect people guilty of victimless offences, such as having a defective headlight, to contribute towards compensation for victims of burglaries. There were also concerns that generally law-abiding people would end up paying while serious offenders escaped having to make financial reparation. At the moment only 7 per cent of people sentenced in the Crown Court and 14 per cent sentenced by magistrates are ordered to pay compensation and only just over half of all financial penalties imposed by the courts are actually paid. David Davis, the Shadow Home Secretary, said: “This counter-productive scheme will penalise minor traffic offenders who have nothing to do with bringing misery to the victims of serious crimes and will let off those who have caused pain and suffering. The real criminals will be laughing all the way to the bank.” Kevin Delaney, of the RAC Foundation, said: “Imposing these levies will not be seen by motorists as logical or just. The Government is likely to alienate the people whose support it mosts needs — the normally law-abiding majority.” Harry Fletcher, deputy general secretary of the National Association of Probation Officers, said: “The notion of creating a fund is welcome. The idea of offenders making a contribution where there are victims has some merit, but I think it is highly controversial where there are victimless crimes. It is illogical.” A spokesman for Victim Support said that the commitment to helping victims was welcome but there was “unease with putting a tax on offenders to pay for victims”. Andrew Howard, a policy adviser to the AA, said: “Millions of people are being caught by speed cameras and now they want to put a surcharge on to raise revenue. We are told cameras are not there to raise money and this will raise cash.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine-star Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 FFFFFUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Wrong fucking button, should have said Noooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine-star Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 No1, please delete this post and do it again as I fucked up :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Alex Posted January 14, 2004 Author Admin Share Posted January 14, 2004 Thats coz of that custome your wearing :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine-star Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Cheers mate, I have voted NO Maybe we should all just give the wanker government all our money now and be fucking done with it. The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers The Goverment = Wankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator YamaHead Posted January 14, 2004 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2004 It would seem that your government, like ours, is after only 1 thing.....CASH :roll: ......just another day in paradise, eh :?: Ruthless Bastards! :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthiasD Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Did you know that the British can't take care of themselves? They need a government & 4 MILLION camera's to watch their arses! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcooled Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 they are all wankers!!! why can't they leave road users alone for a bit and get all the little junkie fuckers who go about robbing here there and everywhere :evil: i have no respect for the government or the police! they are scum! if there is someone out there who is a police officer thinking i'm being harsh then just think about what i said the next time you are harrasing a young lad in his car or bike for no reason whatsoever apart from your own inferiority issues! :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Beezkneez Posted January 14, 2004 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2004 as soon as i have enough ££££ i'm outta here...fucking wet all the time and i get about 1% of what i earn..the rest goes to the twatting government :evil: will never vote again.....asking for some cunt to tell me what to do :evil: fuck em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthiasD Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 as soon as i have enough ££££ i'm outta here...fucking wet all the time and i get about 1% of what i earn..the rest goes to the twatting government :evil: will never vote again.....asking for some cunt to tell me what to do :evil: fuck em Maybe you should ask a cunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 YES MR BEEZNEEZ ASK A CUNT IM REFERING TO MATHIAS IF U HAVENT ALREADY GUESSED OUT OF MY WAGES EACH WEEK THEY TAKE £75 NOT MUCH BUT IT FUCKIN MOUNTS UP AND THEN THEY SPEND IT ON FUCKING IRAQIES AND ALL THOSE OTHER CUNTS WHO WONT GET OFF THERE ASS AND WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Alex Posted February 1, 2004 Author Admin Share Posted February 1, 2004 Try pressing the caps lock, its the third key up from the bottom left hand corner of your keyboard :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 i know alex but i was half way through the message and i couldnt be arsed to change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Beezkneez Posted February 2, 2004 Moderator Share Posted February 2, 2004 YES MR BEEZNEEZ ASK A CUNT IM REFERING TO MATHIAS IF U HAVENT ALREADY GUESSED that's Mr Beezkneez SIR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 yes mr beezkneez sir U FUCKING COK SUKIN HOMO OOPPPS SORRY IM THINKING OUT LOUD AGAIN JOKE PMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator YamaHead Posted February 5, 2004 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2004 will never vote again.....asking for some cunt to tell me what to do :evil: fuck em Sounds just like home......I haven't voted for years!.....To me, the decision has been already made well before the election ever starts! :evil: ....Who do these politicians think they're trying to fool :?: .....They're nothing but Hot-Air in suits!.......fall into the same category as Used Car Salesmen :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Did you know that the British can't take care of themselves? They need a government & 4 MILLION camera's to watch their arses! :shock: OI! At least we can get laid without having to pay for it! (Most of the time...) We don't need red light districts like you Dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 they are all wankers!!! why can't they leave road users alone for a bit and get all the little junkie fuckers who go about robbing here there and everywhere :evil: i have no respect for the government or the police! they are scum! if there is someone out there who is a police officer thinking i'm being harsh then just think about what i said the next time you are harrasing a young lad in his car or bike for no reason whatsoever apart from your own inferiority issues! :evil: Mr LC.....I couldn't aggree more!, the law is an arse! and has to be changed, not that way minda you. Like youv'e all said it's right enough the motorist and biker are getting hammered something rotten, it's just not fuckin right. But the problem with us, we just moan a bit then forget it, if we got up off our arses and did something very serious then and only then the wankers in the government might just listen. But just now they just laugh at us, and try to justify al their fucked up rules n reg's, I say blow the fuckers up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Beezkneez Posted June 18, 2004 Moderator Share Posted June 18, 2004 is Axl, Guy Fawkes in disguise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 so what u guys are saying is, tell the police to just forget about the how many road crashes and deaths that happen a year, how many people do you know that get killed in robberys than in road accedents? alot less in robberys, thing is, boys in cars wouldnt be pulled over if they were breaking the law, same as a robber wouldnt need to be arrested if he didnt break the law. ok so im 3 points away from been banned for 4 years but i still respect the police for what they do, any of you ever been a police officer? no? so you wouldnt know shit what it was like, its like me saying all firemen do shit jobs because they dont put out every single fire, i mean wtf, its impossible to do. they probly work there bollocks off but since ive never been one i wouldnt know shit. sorry bout the rant but it does get on my nerve when people have a go a police to stop policing the roads probly just so they can go break the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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