Mallet Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Hi, was wondering if i got get some advice on a 1996 DT175 that i'm trying to get running. The bike has been sitting around unused for a couple of years. Without the motor running, if i put the bike into first gear and pulled the clutch lever in but cannot push the bike, it's like the clutch has not disengaged. I started the bike in neutral and the exhaust was quite smokey. I held the clutch in and put it into first and the motor stall (with clutch lever pulled in). Tried again with a few more revs at idle and was able take off in first but noticed the oil light remained on so shut the bike down. The oil bottle/pump has not been used by the previous owner, they just mixed the oil into the petrol. Any ideas on whats happening or how check/fix it, appreciated. Cheers, Mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted November 29, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2014 its just the plates stuck together. Get the engine hot. Then select 6th gear and with the clutch lever pulled in try pushing the bike it might free them. Plz post q's like this in 'Workshop' Ohh and how bout a little intro in 'New Members' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 ok, thanks for moving the thread to the right area. So, if the autolube oil pump is not used and oil is premix with the fuel would this explain the reason for oil pressure light remain on? Also, the transmission oil was recently changed but i think they used 15w-40 car oil. Can this cause a problem should i can it to a two stroke oil? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Hi Mallet, I had a similar problem with a Suzuki that I bought, not been used for some years and the plates were welded together, I had to dismantle the clutch and hammer the plates apart, they would not break apart even with the engine running and the rear wheel spinning, sometimes you have to just take them off and fix the problem, not sure I understand about the car oil but if someone has put car oil in the engine then the plates are buggered I'm afraid as car oil has additives that will wreck the cork plates on your bike, loads of folks try car oil thinking it's a cheaper oil but don't realise that it's meant for car's not bikes. Someone might be able to tell you how to clean them off but I think that once they are contaminated you have to replace them,l sure that's not what you want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted November 29, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2014 ok, thanks for moving the thread to the right area. So, if the autolube oil pump is not used and oil is premix with the fuel would this explain the reason for oil pressure light remain on? Also, the transmission oil was recently changed but i think they used 15w-40 car oil. Can this cause a problem should i can it to a two stroke oil? Cheers It's not an oil pressure light, It's a 2 stroke tank oil level light, comes on in Neutral and if the level in the tank is low...no bother if you're pre-mixing Car oil has additives that might make your clutch slip...bit ironic that eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 And the blue white smokey exhaust? I pulled the carb apart, cleaned and adjusted the float level (21mm). Could the smoke be cause by the carb, either something i've stuffed up during clean/adjust or could there be a mixture adjustment needed? Or maybe something totally unrelated to carb? Any thoughts/suggestions? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted December 1, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2014 they all smoke a bit until they have warmed up and travelled some distance, if it persists though it could point to a shot crank seal (clutch side) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Yeh " give her a good blast mallit, she should run clean after a few miles, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Anybody know what the port below the choke is ? It's presently plugged.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted December 2, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2014 photo? we didnt get that model in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Got the clutch plates freed up. Thanks for the help. One thing that helped was cable tied the clutch lever in overnight. Road around on the blke for a while and that cleared the exhaust smoke. Got an exhaust manifold leak. Where can i get a gasket for the exhaust manifold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 photo? we didnt get that model in Europe How do i add a photo to the reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacha Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 You'll need a photobucket account or similar to post pics. Check the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Anybody know what the port below the choke is ? It's presently plugged.. Here's a photo; thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted December 12, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2014 Ahh yes it looks like the 2T oil feed ?, you premixing then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted December 12, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2014 Isnt that the 2t oil feed you can see in the background. Fits the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Ahh yes it looks like the 2T oil feed ?, you premixing then? That makes sense, when i got the bike it was premixed. Guess the oil feed was broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallet Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Ok, on to next problem. Bike is still burn transmission oil. Is there any test or visual checks to see where the problem is. Could be crank seal, is there way to check that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted December 15, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 15, 2014 most likely the RH crank seal (clutch side) Can you smell petrol in the gearbox oil ? unscrew the filler and have a sniff is the dipstick level dropping? is the smoke foul smelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Its an easy fix you need to take off clutch the basket & primary gear, pull out old seal , and push in the new,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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