BradZ Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hey guys, noticed after a ride yesterday that my top radiator hose was hissing and bubbling at the clamp, and also where the coolant line goes to the head ( not the water pump) it seems to be weeping from there. Enough to drop half a radiator worth over night. Unless its also leaking when I ride. Any ideas what it could be? Ps. Oil is not milky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'd say either the hose is perished , or the stub where the hose goes on has been bent oval by a wallop off something . That's my best guess from your info . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwan Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 silly question, but are the hose clamps securely fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Update. Have discovered its leaking from the bottom of the water pump cover. Out the weep hole I think it is? What does this usually imply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Water pump seal.Yes you can change just the seal.Cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Replaced the seal tonight and that solved the problem. Now its leaking out thr overflow. Way more than it should. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hesitate to say it but Head gasket gone perhaps? Does it only come out when it's hot or all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 After a ride so yeah when it's hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 I was fearing it would be the head gasket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Unfortunately it does sound like that doesn't it. With most water cooled vehicles there is some water in the oil or oil in the water, have you found anything like that? Best to check I suppose as it will knacker the engine if you run it with a gasket blown, it might be possible that your head bolts are not as tight as they should be have you tried retorqueing the head up to the correct adjustment? A cheap fix if that's what it is otherwise your off the the shed with a gasket set and a few late nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hate to be the bearer of bad news but it could be a cracked head or cylinder,the spark plug will be clean as new.But the only way to know is to pull the head off and depending on how many hours are on the motor you might as well change the valves while your there,and install new rings measure the bore. These bikes are high maintence,failing to replace valves will cost you large when one snaps and they will snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Oh God that sounds horrible, why on earth would you make a bike that needs that much care and attention? I've had girlfriends that took less care than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 2 words Slice Race Bike is why,the service intervals are measured in hours 10 to be exact,not miles motors that rev to 16k with ultra light weight parts need to be cared for. You can't even bore the stock motor you have to replate the cylinder as there is no steel liner to bore. Thats why alot of guys put the big bore kit on when replate time comes the cheap ones are about the same cost as replating at about 600 usd ,but when they bore the cylinder +3mm over it leaves way less meat to take the heat away and they crack easier. I am not a fan of them they only give a small increase in bottom end power but put alot more stress on the crank so you end up changing cranks/crank bearings more often.And with a slipper piston only 1.5 inches tall the side loads are greater on the bore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yeah the bike has a bore kit on it. I was afraid this would happen.. also its leaking coolant out the weep hole again after installing a new seal less than an hour ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Your getting pressure in the system then you have to find where it is comming from, so check every thing means a rip down. Check the surface of the head and barrel for scratches ( even small ones),,, to and from,, the gasket sealing surfaces . Get a glass plate and check for wrapage of the block and head.If you haven't done it before simple enough place parts on glass plate,set on greese on a solid surface and try to fit feeler gauges under in varrious places around part. with a heavy block on top of part. You can tape wet dry paper to glass plate and go in a figure 8 pattern to even out any warpage/scrathces but be carefull of your valve clearences to pistion. You will need to make sure you don't fix 1 problem to only creat another by checking the valve clearence to pistion if you have to remove alot of head and barrel material ..If that is even the problem. Check it all out don't rush to concolusions Flip..out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 If its blown the water pump seal again that would suggest a blown head gasket as its clearly pressurized the cooling system? Where can I find head gaskets for Athena big bore kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Also, having a 500cc big bore kit on it, I wont be able to use a standard head gasket will I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 First I doubt its a 500 kit most likely a 473-8 kit and no the stock won't work,just google big bore kits for your bike and pick a supplier,has to be one in OZ if not plenty here and the USA. Not to knock Athina but they are considered the cheapest quality amongst the big bore comunity,and wiseco the best but you pay for it. As you cant ride the bike anyway I would pull the top end off and check it only a couple of hours work no point in ordeding anything till you know for sure what is wrong. You can do it with the motor in place but it's easy to pull the motor And while your waiting for parts you can recondition the head.If you order a gasket and find a cracked barrel then your going to need a full kit anyway. Lots of cracke barrels wont leak coolant into the motor as the crack only open's when hot and above the piston Edit some replating companys have a exchange program so you need to send your old barrel to get a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Thanks mate I'll look into all that first thing tomorrow. This forum is full of the most helpful people ive ever come across so thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradZ Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Im having trouble finding a gasket for my bike, being bored out I need a specialized gasket, not oem. My question is if I could find a wiseco gasket out of their big bore kits would it suit my Athena kit? I've heard Athena gaskets are junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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