Dukilad Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 hi guys, I am getting a xvs 125 soon and i was wondering if it will be ok if i drill some Holes in the end of the pipes. My concern is will i lose any speed due to loss of back pressure, and/or will it cause any problems engine wise ? If it may cause problems, i was thinking maybe i could get some turnout pipes or slashcuts, but again, would i have any probs if i fitted these types of exhaust. ie when it comes to the mot ?? A massive thanks in advance-Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neversaydie Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The stock pipes are the best sounding on a small cruiser I ever heard, but its a personal thing The Highway Hawk pipes sound a little harsh and give the game away a liitle thats its a 125 Drilling holes in the stock pipes might mean some furtling with the carb/might mean an MOT failure Bear in mind that second hand stock pipes are rarer than an honest politician In my view youve 2 options 1) Leave the bike as it is, enjoy it for what it is, learn your roadcraft on it an pass your test, then move on to a bigger bike 2) Buy some aftermarket pipes, keep the stock pipes for MOTs (undrilled), pass them all on when you sell the bike on after passing your test Look after it and it will hold its price well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 The stock pipes are the best sounding on a small cruiser I ever heard, but its a personal thing The Highway Hawk pipes sound a little harsh and give the game away a liitle thats its a 125 Drilling holes in the stock pipes might mean some furtling with the carb/might mean an MOT failure Bear in mind that second hand stock pipes are rarer than an honest politician In my view youve 2 options 1) Leave the bike as it is, enjoy it for what it is, learn your roadcraft on it an pass your test, then move on to a bigger bike 2) Buy some aftermarket pipes, keep the stock pipes for MOTs (undrilled), pass them all on when you sell the bike on after passing your test Look after it and it will hold its price well Thanks for your quick response nsd, so by aftermarket pipes do you mean like slashcuts, turnouts etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild foamy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 'Aftermarket' is a term for anything you buy that isnt an option that you buy from Yamaha, and unless you can buy slashcuts/fishtails/e.t.c directly from yamaha you will be buying 'aftermarkets' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 'Aftermarket' is a term for anything you buy that isnt an option that you buy from Yamaha, and unless you can buy slashcuts/fishtails/e.t.c directly from yamaha you will be buying 'aftermarkets' Thanks foamy, thats what i needed to know mate. :-) Are the aftermarket pipes easy to fit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaman Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 As long as all the nuts and bolts are not rusted and seized solid then yes easy to fit, unbolt the old ones and bolt on the new ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Thanks foamy, thats what i needed to know mate. :-) Are the aftermarket pipes easy to fit ? Hi Duki, Pipes are a doddle to fit but thats as long as the nuts and bolts aren't fucked with rust (as campy said above) the hard part is to actually find a set of aftermarket pipes, item of this nature for the XVS 125 are like watching a rocking horse taking a golden shit. but so happens that there are still a few places that still do them £150 for the slash cuts plus P&P brings you to about £200ish http://www.customcruisers.com/Custom2005/customshop2005_copy/contents/en-uk/d1935.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 If you're keeping the bike forever, do what you like with it. If you're planning on selling it when you get a bigger one, leave it alone. Bikes always fetch more money if you haven't fucked about with it, as modded bikes are limited by the specific taste of each individual buyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 As long as all the nuts and bolts are not rusted and seized solid then yes easy to fit, unbolt the old ones and bolt on the new ones. Hi Duki, Pipes are a doddle to fit but thats as long as the nuts and bolts aren't fucked with rust (as campy said above) the hard part is to actually find a set of aftermarket pipes, item of this nature for the XVS 125 are like watching a rocking horse taking a golden shit. but so happens that there are still a few places that still do them £150 for the slash cuts plus P&P brings you to about £200ish http://www.customcruisers.com/Custom2005/customshop2005_copy/contents/en-uk/d1935.html If you're keeping the bike forever, do what you like with it. If you're planning on selling it when you get a bigger one, leave it alone. Bikes always fetch more money if you haven't fucked about with it, as modded bikes are limited by the specific taste of each individual buyer. Thanks very much for all the info guys, I really appreciate it. What about the universal fitting pipes ? Any good or crap ? The ones i am talking about are the ones on e-bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 These Universal pipes are basically slip on's and will require you to cut the end cans off your pipes and slip / weld these ones on so they are great if your building a one off bike from scratch or very shit once you have them on your door step scratching your head trying to figure out how to fit them with out cocking up ye bike Are you going to do you big boys test? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 These Universal pipes are basically slip on's and will require you to cut the end cans off your pipes and slip / weld these ones on so they are great if your building a one off bike from scratch or very shit once you have them on your door step scratching your head trying to figure out how to fit them with out cocking up ye bike Are you going to do you big boys test? Lol thanks noise, I think i will give them a wide berth then. I have taken my test two or three times and failed, not on anything serious, just silly things like left an indicator on/ doing 30 in a 20 zone/ and another time i went over the road markings at a junction coz they were worn away, Hardly visible. So it was then i decided to just stay with 125`s as i am quite happy just pottering about for now, but you never know i may do my test again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild foamy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 doing 30 in a 20 zone/ good god man you could have killed a child! Little Timmy isnt coming home tonight, said goodbye to his friends and was walking home from soccer practice on that cold rainy night, he didnt hear you and now he's wrapped around your spokes, the parents are crying, the dad turns to drink and hangs himself whilst the mother blames herself for letting him out to play so late, she too turns to drink and ends up OD'ing on crack in a doss house on the wrong side of town... just think of THAT next time you go for your test, then see if you do 30 in a 20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 good god man you could have killed a child! Little Timmy isnt coming home tonight, said goodbye to his friends and was walking home from soccer practice on that cold rainy night, he didnt hear you and now he's wrapped around your spokes, the parents are crying, the dad turns to drink and hangs himself whilst the mother blames herself for letting him out to play so late, she too turns to drink and ends up OD'ing on crack in a doss house on the wrong side of town... just think of THAT next time you go for your test, then see if you do 30 in a 20 point taken foamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neversaydie Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 This is what your Highway Hawks will sound like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 This is what your Highway Hawks will sound like Thanks very much for that nsd, They do sound a lot better than stock pipes imo. A few questions---with this modification would it still pass an mot ? and would it de-value the price of the bike, Are they legal, and would i need to have the carb re-jetted. Sorry for all the questions, but i am not mechanically minded, i can change plugs/oil etc but thats about me done mate, although i have got good biker neighbours who help me out when i get stuck with anything, which is most of the time lol. I just love two wheels, and cruising about in summer (when we get em) is my idea of living. I am 53 years and as soon as i was old enough to get a machine i did. Dare i say it/or will i get shot LOL, a lambretta vega 49 cc. from then it was a lambretta Li, 150 re-bored to a 175. I have to tell you After wrapping both these up (not my fault) I left 2 wheels alone for quite a while. Then i discovered Bikes and i love em, i won`t do the full history as i am guessing your eyes are glazing over right now. but just a bit of my history mate. good to know ya. Cheers -Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Hi Terry, 3 fails im sure you have 4th in you, just relax but not too much as at 53 im sure some bits are already relaxed too much ha ha As for those pipes yes they will pass an MOT as long as they are not stupidly loud, my bike is about 94-96db and she passed the MOT, Legal wise as long as they dont say "Not for road use" they are legal and will pass an MOT, there are laws for vehicle noise (think 100db is the limit) but its all down the the police officers discretion if to do you or not. If your at the lights revving the bollocks off it then your gunna get pulled, but your less likley to be pulled if your just plodding along at 20 in a 20 zone And yes the carbs will need to be rejetted, very easy to do if you can get the bastard screw out of the float bowls without rounding the heads off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neversaydie Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Slow down a bit Get the bike first Ride it around, get to know it If, aftre a while, you want to change the pipes, then do, but there's nowt worse than buying a bike then stripping it for some reason or other, then having hassle to get it going right again, it''ll put you off if your'e not mechanically minded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Hi Terry, 3 fails im sure you have 4th in you, just relax but not too much as at 53 im sure some bits are already relaxed too much ha ha As for those pipes yes they will pass an MOT as long as they are not stupidly loud, my bike is about 94-96db and she passed the MOT, Legal wise as long as they dont say "Not for road use" they are legal and will pass an MOT, there are laws for vehicle noise (think 100db is the limit) but its all down the the police officers discretion if to do you or not. If your at the lights revving the bollocks off it then your gunna get pulled, but your less likley to be pulled if your just plodding along at 20 in a 20 zone And yes the carbs will need to be rejetted, very easy to do if you can get the bastard screw out of the float bowls without rounding the heads off. Yeah i hear ya noise, and yep i learned a lesson that day and it won`t happen again. It was just that we turned into the 20 zone off a main road, and i didn`t see the feckin sign. by the time we came to the first speed bump, i new i had fucked up. But like i said lesson learned, and test failed but who knows maybe i will give it another crack one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Slow down a bit Get the bike first Ride it around, get to know it If, aftre a while, you want to change the pipes, then do, but there's nowt worse than buying a bike then stripping it for some reason or other, then having hassle to get it going right again, it''ll put you off if your'e not mechanically minded. Thanks for the advice nsd, actually that is what i plan on doing. I won`t touch anything for a while, but if one day i fancy giving the bike a bit more throat, well at least i now know what pipes to get etc (thanks to you guys) and to be honest i will let my local bike shop (steve ives) fit them for me. lovely fella he is. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukilad Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 as promised here is my new baby, all cleaned and polished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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