satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 So this is my first bike and i already know thatI did a bad thing by leaving the bike on PRI instead of ON when it came to the fuel...and I'm pretty sure that I hydro locked the bike after it refused to start. It made a loud cluck and not what i believe is the starter gear being stripped i have a question. Would it be a good idea for a person who has never messed with engines in his life tackle this job or should I take the bike to a shop for repair. I have the Clymer manual and am good at following directions. I am including the video that i took of what it does...Any help would be greatly appreciated. An estimate on how much a shop would charge would be great too. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Try pulling the spark plugs out ground them on the cylinder and see what it does.If it's just hydro locked it will turn over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Oh also check the oil level and drain if nessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 The bike won't start for me to warm it up to change the oil. And is that noise that its making the starter gear? It does that when inhit the starter. I'm worried that I ground the teeth off the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Just drop the oil but it does sound like you striped the teeth off,it wont hurt to turn the motor over with no oil just dont start it pull the spark plugs out as I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 So i should try and start it with no oil or sparkplugs? Not sure how to manually turn the motor over. And should i drain the float bowls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Here is the first video the day it happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 ok I'll try one more time pull spark plugs drain oil try to turn motor over with starter,this way the motor has no compression and the oil cant hydro lock it if it turns over then the starter is not ducked if it still dosent turn over then the starter and or starter clutch is broken and you need to fix it . But as your having trouble following simple instructions then mabey better to leave it to a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Got it and can do...Like I said I am new to this and am open to learning just need to be a little patient with me. The last post was dumbed down enough for me so I will go ahead and give that a try! Thanks for your patience! I've also heard about the float needles but I'll try the changing the oil and the plugs first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt502001 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 OH boy you should just leave it to a pro I didnt say chang oil and plugs just remove Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Sorry about that...I meant remove them...not change them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 ok I'll try one more time Sorry, *what* was it you're telling him to do, again...? I'm sure you said, but I must have missed it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted March 16, 2014 Moderator Share Posted March 16, 2014 It made a loud cluck That will be the fowled plugs.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Starter clutch , or i"v seen a Zed 1 shear the woodruff key, as starter clutch is on the rotor,,, either way , if you have a job understanding Remove the plugs,, , its wallet bashing time,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Will do...going to start there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy xs Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Are you by any chance Grouch's American cousin ? good luck mate let us know how you get on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Not sure who grouchin is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satchuml Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well...i went ahead and removed the plugs from the bike and had the battery fully charged...still making the noise and it sounds like its coming from where the starter would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Now that the bike has no oil in it id now remove the starter motor from the bike like so: Remove cable from the starter motor undo the two bolts holding it in slowly pull and winggle starter motor out the case You can now check to see if its the teeth on the motor that are fooked. If the teeth are ok then next get two bits of wire and your battery: Connect one cable to the + on the battery Connect the other wire to the - on the battery Connect the - to the body of the starter motor TOUCH (do not hold it on) the + wire to the bolt comming out of the motor where the cable you removed at Part 1 of the removal stage. The motor should spin up, if it don't spin but makes a noise then the starter motor is fooked. If the Starter spins next thing to do is; Get a torch turn on torch shin the torch in the hole where the starter motor was you should see the fly wheel check the teeth on the fly wheel if they are ok then more investigating is needed if the teeth are fooked say the following Fuck Bollocks cunting wank prick i want my mum Wife! i need a cuppa Why did i buy this heap of shit Wonder how much i can get for scrap? Where is my hammer I know i'll try and fix it O shit im well over my head with this (said during re-build) Wife, where is the phone book for the local bike mechanic? Good luck and i really do hope that its just the starter motor thats packed up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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