FizzyRascal Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 I think when the 30/40 Year old now , in 10 years will re-buy what they had as first bikes, . The YZF R1 1998 red/white will be the next brough superior , .but the market will not be fueled by as many old bikers, As we " were all on motorcycles when left school. most of my mates had a bike , till they passed the car test,,, Cant see the volume of buyers, once were gone,,, This is a fair point. I'm 'reliving my youth' with my Fizzies and stuff. I got my first moped in 1973 (at 16) There's a whole generation out there that never ever rode tho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzyRascal Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 just about any 2 stroke commands top money now, really hard to find a bargain, This is so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toutsuite Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Draggies hold their value well, as can be seen from a quick perusal of the classifieds. As long as they are well cared for, and modded tastefully, I think there will be a market for them for many years to come. Mine gets some very admiring views and comments when I'm out and about: people wanting to know what make and model, "sweet looking bike man!", etc. The Silver Lady has even known to attract the glances of the odd Harley rider. One fairly ancient bearded gent on a massive old Harley certainly liked the sound of her and didn't mind saying so (thank you messrs Vance & Hines!) Mechanically there are things to watch out for (as with every bike), but the low-revving, unstressed engine should see the other side of 100k with the odd replacement (e.g. timing belt at 60-70k). Tasky's case was a bit of very uncommon bad luck. I've never actually heard of another case on any other bike where the oil sump plug just comes off, spilling the oil and killing the engine. I believe there is, and will be, a crowd out there of former owners and other interested parties that will keep this bike alive for a few decades yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Tasky's case was a bit of very uncommon bad luck. I've never actually heard of another case on any other bike where the oil sump plug just comes off, spilling the oil and killing the engine. It wasn't the plug, it was the gasket around the oil filter. It melted and split, leaving oil to piss out the gap so fast that the level light never even came on. If the bike is very well maintained, it should be OK, but these things are susceptible to issues and certain spares are a real pain in the arse. It's certainly not intended to be a daily ride, though... least not in this country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toutsuite Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The rubber O-ring? I change that with every oil-filter change. You're absolutely right though that it's not an every day use bike. No cruiser is. Hence the CB500 for my daily commute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo666 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I highly doubt they will be collector's items. They are after all like the Guys said above. Plus I think the only ones that will fetch the most money in years to come are the standards ones and the ones not fucked about with by blokes like me ha ha haha we're not fucking about with them we just make them a bit more unique lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The rubber O-ring? I change that with every oil-filter change. Likewise. Perhaps I got a duff one and didn't notice. Meh... have FJ now, so all is fine. But yeah, needs looking after. I personally still think original unmodded bikes will be of higher value. Tastes change, tassels become fashion faux-pas, conchos become frowned upon and studs.... well. They're studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted February 13, 2014 Moderator Share Posted February 13, 2014 I have said on here several times. I would far sooner have a well looked after original bike (like my tdr) than a bitza that been abused and rebuilt time again (er like my dt). The discoloured paint on the barrel. The marks of life give a bike soul. A perfect restoration most of the time these days follows a stck line. Strip bike. Complete engine rebuild with all new. Strip and recoat frame New seat New wiring New rubber grips etc New cables New New zzzzzzzzzzzz They are not restored their replaced using the old bike as a pattern. On stuff like dirtys lil 125, fine that is pretty rough. People ask if im going to restore my tdr, fuck off or close to it is the usual response. The bike is 26 years old, 10k or so, pretty much as it left the factory. Save for some dodgy wheel painting (dunno now fixed). Original, good nick and in vaguely regular use with tax and test is what makes money. Not ornaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toutsuite Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I personally still think original unmodded bikes will be of higher value. Tastes change, tassels become fashion faux-pas, conchos become frowned upon and studs.... well. They're studs. Tassels have always been fashion faux-pas! I think a decent set of well-looked after after-market pipes, nice 'n' shiny, can increase the value of the bike (as well as make it sound better). Studs I'm in too minds about; my bike has - some - studs. I realize studs are one of those things that can really camp up a cruiser, especially if it's absolutely festooned with them (for that pearly queen look!) I have a few studs on the top of my saddlebags, and some smaller ones on the leather tank pad. They're stainless steel though, not chrome. And I think I get away with it because they sort of work with the silver paint scheme of the bike. Still a bit camp though, but what the hell, it's a drag queen! Stud no-no's: no studs on saddles, sissy bars or on the sides of saddlebags. What are conchos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Conchos - Little round decorative things (usually with tassels affixed) that belong on the handbags of cowgirls, not the saddlebags of biker boys: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo666 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 no studs well thats me fecked up then ma ride lol i quite like them myself but no tassles ever no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toutsuite Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 The saddlebags are ok, but I've never liked studs on saddles and sissybars, I find them OTT. But hey, if it puts a smile on yer face who cares what anyone else thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Studs are gay, camp, and hidious! Gizzy what the fook are you thinking man! ha ha Tassles need to be firmly wrapped around the rider throat and the studded seat and extras rammed up the twitching rabbits nose. but each to there own and as long as you all like them then who am i to question your sexuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toutsuite Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Studs are gay... So's riding around in a nazi helmet boyo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhat250 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Studs are gay, camp, and hidious! Gizzy what the fook are you thinking man! ha ha Tassles need to be firmly wrapped around the rider throat I take it your not a Harley fan then do you wear chaps tho" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo666 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Studs are gay, camp, and hidious! Gizzy what the fook are you thinking man! ha ha Tassles need to be firmly wrapped around the rider throat and the studded seat and extras rammed up the twitching rabbits nose. but each to there own and as long as you all like them then who am i to question your sexuality i just bought it that way and it grew on me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 So's riding around in a nazi helmet boyo! Ahh too shay sir. I take it your not a Harley fan then do you wear chaps tho" Im a Harley fan but not to the extreme that i would buy all the Harley branded crap that mr sales man wants to add to your receipt. And i only wear chaps on week ends down with my mates at the Blue oyster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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