If you want to know how much quicker a DT175 is compared to XL185 you must own both. Although its 2 stroke vs 4 stroke its still amazing how much quicker the DT is...runs rings around the XL. Won`t get the good fuel consumption though.

10 / 10 for stating the obvious. The point is?

I'm surprised theres all that much difference myself they were only ever claimed to be 15 / 16 BHP or so

how do you know ther DT hasnt been ported any?

That shows you have never ridden one paul.

Oh wow, slow acceleration..... They are heavier, uglier from my point of view and at the end of the day a 4stroke.

You wouldnt swap Paul.

Yup..but good fuel cons. is also the order of the day these days..XL can do 30km/L ridden nicely. That`s better than lotta modern scooters.