Bartekuk Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Hi i need to bleed my oil pump today so i started to bleed it but i kept on getting bubles also my feed pipe and the oil tank looked very messy so i took it all apart and gave it a good clean when i got to the oil pump i took off the output pipe and foumd out theres a kinda white moisture in it so i cleaned that and took the oil pump of and saw the white moisture again coming out of the driveshaft into the oil pump i think that its water mixed with water is this something i should be worried about or is it meant to be like this ? [br][br][br][br][br][br][br][br][br][br][br]
dt502001 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 No it shouldn't be like that,and yes you should be woried.
Bartekuk Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 Ok thanks for fast reply could someone help me on what i should do about it would be very appreciated
Moderator Airhead Posted August 17, 2013 Moderator Posted August 17, 2013 seems to me that you must have a bad seal on that oil pump driveshaft! not only that though! you must also have a gearbox full of water and that is whats coming through, so your water pump seal must be goosed as well! Check your gearbox oil
Bartekuk Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 I think the gearbox oil is fine i did a oil change about 2 months ago as i said above the same kind of moisture was in my feed pipe that is more likely to get water also regarding to the gearbox oil the level of oil is aprox the same as when i did the oil change. About the drive shaft is that the seal that is visible on the first photo or is it hidden in the engine ? Thanks for help
Moderator Airhead Posted August 17, 2013 Moderator Posted August 17, 2013 did you just fill your 2T tank recently? what 2 stroke oil did you fill your tank with?
Bartekuk Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 No last time i refilled the 2t tank was about 4 weeks ago and i noticed it needed bleeding so i left it as i went on holiday now i came back and started working on it the 2 stroke i used is carlube 2-stroke motorcycle oil XL
Moderator Airhead Posted August 17, 2013 Moderator Posted August 17, 2013 Theres only 2 places water could have come from 1: the clutch case (through a faulty seal) 2: the 2T tank a faulty seal would also cause you to 'notice' the pump needed bleeding
Bartekuk Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 Ok sorry for pesting you but what should i do in this case ?
Moderator Airhead Posted August 17, 2013 Moderator Posted August 17, 2013 drain the 2T tank into a clear container, see if theres water in it? if there isnt you can use it later Drain the gearbox oil and transfer this into a clear container (2 litre pop bottle) and let it settle, see any water here?
Bartekuk Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 Ok thanks i have took off the 2t tank and the pipes for cleaning as there was this kind of dirt in there but it was not as runny as the one in the photos also as i have a clear pipe i can see the oil but from what i can remember every time i looked the fluid was pure red, i will check the gearbox oil and keep you updated
Bartekuk Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 Hi i checked the engine oil and theres no water there but i just rembered that when i took of the output pipe the little one that goes to the carb there was water in it ?
Moderator Airhead Posted August 18, 2013 Moderator Posted August 18, 2013 when did you fit this pump, has it always been on there? C'mon it's time you told us more about this instead of me havin to root it out of ya!
Bartekuk Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 I brought the bike with the pump on and this is the first time i took it out dont know what else i should tell you about this really :/
dt502001 Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I think the gearbox oil is fine i did a oil change about 2 months ago as i said above the same kind of moisture was in my feed pipe that is more likely to get water also regarding to the gearbox oil the level of oil is aprox the same as when i did the oil change. About the drive shaft is that the seal that is visible on the first photo or is it hidden in the engine ? Thanks for help I think the gearbox oil is fine i did a oil change about 2 months ago as i said above the same kind of moisture was in my feed pipe that is more likely to get water also regarding to the gearbox oil the level of oil is aprox the same as when i did the oil change. About the drive shaft is that the seal that is visible on the first photo or is it hidden in the engine ? Thanks for help Thinking gets people into trouble,drain all fluids untill you find the cause of water getting into the system as air said mostlikely you water pump seal is gone. for 5 bucks ya can buy a new one and fit it will need to be done sooner or later anyway.
dt502001 Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 This might sound stupid but does you oil tank have a good fitting cap?
Moderator Airhead Posted August 18, 2013 Moderator Posted August 18, 2013 "I brought the bike with the pump on and this is the first time i took it out dont know what else i should tell you about this really" well at least I know now that you never ran the bike before! if theres no water in the gearbox There was water in the 2T tank when you filled it or at least there HAD been at some point, and of course this water filtered down to the pump and just sat there as it had nowhere else to go! Bleed the pump until clean clear red oil only flows from the bleed,id give it a rinse in something first, diesel oil maybe and in future it would help that you posted the full details and history in your first post, I assumed that this was a sudden occurance...why wouldnt i?
Bartekuk Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 Ok well thanks for your help very appreciated and a lesson learned for me
dt502001 Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Help is only a few ??'s a way always here we just need to know the details as Air said. and a thankyou at the end as you did is always a good second thought. Going out for a ride now TTYL
Moderator Airhead Posted August 18, 2013 Moderator Posted August 18, 2013 Ok well thanks for your help very appreciated and a lesson learned for me you're welcome Bart, let us know how you get on.
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