kenDAWG Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 well people this is my first go at a review thread so bare with me.... ive been looking for a decent aggressive dual tyre that i could take off road on weekends aswell as use for work, ive had a couple sets on my little dt up to now from some road avons to Heidenau k60 catspaw's and apart from the road going capabilitys of the avons there was no way of offraoding on them lol so i bought the catspaws and to be fair they where rubbish on anything damp never mind in the rain !!!!! i come accross these michelins through a thread on here a while ago and thought i would take the plunge so i ordered the pair at a cost of £110 posted (from ebay) i fitted these tyres at a friends house and off i went on the trails so ill get into the nitty and gritty.... FIRST THOUGHTS -tyres look very very impressive, the knobbles seem to be high and well spaced which im guessing is for spinoff so there is no chance of them getting bunged up with dirt loosing you traction on the trails. -took me and a pal a few hours to get these tyres on - very very tight fit ON THE ROAD (first used these tyres on the road in dry condition) -i found the tyres a little hard to corner comftable with twitching coming from the rear (ever so slight mind) i still havent got confidence to corner at a decent speed im guessing once the tyre gets worn to my riding style i might be able to push them a little more. -there is alot of noise from them which is more notacble under engine braking but even more so on hevy braking -ive never felt the front tyre twitching while banking into the corners but im guessing this is due to the tyre's knobbles being more tightly packed -they do seem to have a little pull into creases while riding along on the straights not to much (ive felt worse) OFFROAD -as soon as i got on the dirty stuff i knew these are the tyres for me, from the off the grip from wet soil to gravel was perfect going through a series of puddles you could just about swim in to a stretch of clay like soil with ease. -braking was good being able to use the front brake unlike with the catspaw so when the rear does lock up in the dirt you can use the front i just used light pumping action (but be gentle there not gonna stop you dead in the dirt) -climbing up a hill you wouldnt like to walk up in the rain was fun with plenty of grip even with the rear wheel flicking some dirt up in me pals face on his quad (revenge) -although the tyres are decent offroad in all conditions (dry and wet) i did come across some snow which i treated like dirt and she spat me off, front end went for a walk in different direction i would rate these tyres on the road as 5/10 offroad 8.5/10 there not too bad on the road not bad enough to void them, i guess the more aggresive offroad a tyre gets the less they will be a road tyre - on the road they are ok but offroad there top notch and i dont regret buying them and would recomend them to any green lainer here they are on my little dt125r - minus exhaust for cleaning purpose cheers ken 1
welshwan Posted February 23, 2013 Posted February 23, 2013 great review mate, might have to get a set of these next. one question i gotta ask though (if you know that is) how are they on a grassy field? the tires i currently have are great on everything except for wet grass. just doesn't want to stay upright lol , front end always coming from under me
busyeddie Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 AC10's are a great off road tyre, but not great on wet tarmac. But as long as you remember this you should be ok. 14-16psi off road and 25psi on road. Big licks will wear them out quick on road, and if you run low pressure on the road for a long time say goodbye to them! And as for wet grass, let me know when you find a solution, I'm still looking!
kenDAWG Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 To be totally honest I've never been on wet grass yet but can that be more or less slippy than wet mud? Also I've been using them on same psi on and offroad so there pumped up near max psi and they have impressed me, I'm guessing if I drop the psi they will only be better offroad Few people have asked me if these tyres are road legal up to now and I'm waiting to be pulled by the filth as they do look like motocross tyres but so far so good!!! If and when I come across grass ill have a blast see what I think, and cheers or the feedback Ken
dt502001 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Umm what size rear tire did you fit 110-100-19? it looks way to big a 90-100-19 or 18 if that the rim size would work way better,nobody runs anything bigger at the track on a 125 the 110's are for 450's. Just compare the weight diff in the 2 and you will see why your over taxing the motor and the bike dosen't wiegh enough to push a big tire into the ground,belive it or not a 90 will give you more traction and make the bike quicker out of corners as the eng can rev up quicker as for wet grass the only solution I have found is to steer it in with the back end flat track style,wet grass and ice just about the same nothing to dig into
kenDAWG Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 It's a 100-100-18!!! Does the job for me although I can understand what you are saying how much size difference is with the 90 next to the 100? I wouldn't have thought it was much? Ken
dt502001 Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Well save yourself a few $$$ next tire and buy the 90,probably not much difference in price but why pay for what you don't need and slowing your bike down every ounce counts esp on a 125. If you mainly drive on pavment it's not going to last very long anyway,and you will never burn up the sides. Let us know what milage you get out of it I'd be suprised if you get 2000 I run a 100-100-19 on my wr250 and it hooks up just fine everywhere,but it a heavier bike with more power, the center it's 1/2 worn and the side's are still good save for a few riped/chunked knobs. I had a 110 on that a pro gave me (lucky bastered gets free tires and only runs them 1 race) but I hated it couldn't belive how shity my bike hooked up and made the bike turn in slower,at first I thought it was all in my mind,put a 100 back on and bang bike was back to normal. Keep the report going
Prichard XT Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 best allround on/off road tyre on the market in my opinion Metzeler Unicross im on my 3rd set now and they are amazing dry or wet tarmac they have never failed me and as on/off roader tyres go on the dirt sand and gravel they bite the floor and away you go they last a good 4000 - 6000 miles on a 125 on road very aggressive tread pattern bad news is you cant get them any where as the don't produce them any more also for tyres I seriously suggest using openeo.com free delivery (2-3days) cheapest around shipped from poland if I can get me a set for cheap il give em a go though
j0hn Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 My WR250 came with an AC10 front but a competition only rear tyre (M12 XC). So I've got a 120/90 AC10 rear that I'm going to fit. The tyre looks massive compared to the current one .
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