KaMoe58 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 First of all; thanks for a great forum. I am considering mounting the OEM passing lamps on my 2002 XVS 650A. Both because they looks cool, but mostly for visibility. You can never be too visible. Right? But I hate visible wiring. Does anyone have close-up pictures of these running lights / passing lamps when mounted on the bike? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Just so you know people are paying attention - I do not have any pics, I'm afraid. However, welcome to the forum. You might want to post in the Introduction section as single posts, particularly questions, are considered rude and tend to attract little more than sarcastic insults (usually from me!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 You also need to check if it will still charge the battery with all the lights on. Someone did a piece on here showing how little charge is left if you start adding lights to a 650 XVS And what Ttaskmaster said - do an intro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 "hi there i just bought a dragstar 1998 classic on the ride home very wet and dark so traveled with the spots on as well and found battery drained when i got home looking around the forums i found this explains it all to me: I have been working on putting together a complete map of the 650 Electrical system with wattages,etc so folks understand a bit better exactly how much you can add and what you can expect to be the outcome of adding extras. The following items on the bike use the power constantly: Headlight - 55W Taillight - 8W Front Running lights - 16W Speedo light - 2W Ignition Coils - 72W Ignition Module - 20W This means that under normal running conditions the bike will use at least 173W of power.According to the test data from Electrosport in their comparison of their stator to the stock one, the stock system puts out 169W at idle(1200RPM) and 221W at 5000RPM. Yamaha states that the stock system puts out 280W Max so most bikes will fall between the 221W and 280W marks. Here are some additional power usages: Signalling - 28W Braking - 27W Carb Heaters - 60W Passing lamps - 60W (smaller units) - 110W (larger lamps) The carb heaters kick in when the temps are lower than 12 degrees Celsius.What this means is that the bike will consume 173W + 60W = 233W of power when the carb heaters are on. My 2000 Classic puts out something like 235W-240W at 5000 RPM which is barely enough to keep the system running without using the battery while highway riding only. At idle, the charging system cannot keep up and an additional 64W are drawn from the battery. I have a battery monitor on my bike and was able to verify the above. I'm sure the “My battery died” posts are going to start now that the weather is getting cooler and a lot of folks falsely blame the battery when it is actually the weak charging system and too many electrical accessories that are to blame. Bottom line is that if you ride in temps lower than 12 degrees Celsius, you had better not run your passing lamps or any other extra lights or you will drain the battery and have difficulty starting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toutsuite Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Extra weight, extra current drain, extra pointless. If you want more light, get one of the new xenon bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo666 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 think that was me that put that up about the power levels lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Thank you TM for finding it and Giz for providing it - I couldn't find it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaskmaster Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Extra weight, extra current drain, extra pointless. If you want more light, get one of the new xenon bulbs. On a bike that already weighs 230kg and only has 40hp with which to haul it, I really don't think the weight is a factor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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