Judzehh Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hello all As the title states, I am looking to upgrade the chain on my XT as the one i have needs adjusting after every couple of journeys to and from work, I dont really care about the price, I just want one that will last and is hard wearing, X-Ring sounds the best to me but what do i know Any Suggestions on which model to get and where to get it from would be much appreciated Thanks Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkwindjammer Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sounds like you've got noob biker faff syndrome, the chain should't need adjusted as frequently, check the slack-should have 15mm travel up and 15mm travel down when pushed in the middle between front and rear sprocket, a DID chain should be fine try www.wemoto.co.uk for a replacement, if you get a new one leave it alone and check it for tension every 200 miles, clean and lube regularly tho' hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted January 12, 2011 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2011 Dont put a new chain on your old sprockets Jordan, it will wear out double quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judzehh Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks for the reply I probably am faffing around abit to much, But if you saw the state of the chain thats currently on it, You'd understand I'll give the website a try. Thanks again for the help Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judzehh Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Dont put a new chain on your old sprockets Jordan, it will wear out double quick. If thats the case, Would http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XT_125_X/07-09/picture/Chain_and_Sprocket_Kit_DID/ be worth the buy or would the quality of them be abit crap? Thanks alot! Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwhite Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 If thats the case, Would http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XT_125_X/07-09/picture/Chain_and_Sprocket_Kit_DID/ be worth the buy or would the quality of them be abit crap? Thanks alot! Jordan put it this way if you never lube or clean the chain it will last for about 11 months b4 it grinds your sprockets to oblivian (and could cause you and the bike some damage if it comes off when ur doin 50mph) but if u clean the chain once a week(or more) and use chain lube then it could last you anyware between 2-3 years oh and adjust it properly! you want to do what B.W.J said and have about 15mm of play but note it will get tighter when you ride it after you adjust it, so you may need to adjust it again to get it right. personaly id always add chains and sprockets to the expendible parts like tiers and bulbs which i replace every year to make sure the bike is top notch! but thats just what i do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judzehh Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 put it this way if you never lube or clean the chain it will last for about 11 months b4 it grinds your sprockets to oblivian (and could cause you and the bike some damage if it comes off when ur doin 50mph) but if u clean the chain once a week(or more) and use chain lube then it could last you anyware between 2-3 years oh and adjust it properly! you want to do what B.W.J said and have about 15mm of play but note it will get tighter when you ride it after you adjust it, so you may need to adjust it again to get it right. personaly id always add chains and sprockets to the expendible parts like tiers and bulbs which i replace every year to make sure the bike is top notch! but thats just what i do. Thats what I was thinking, Seen as the bike is 3 years old and the state of the chain on it at the moment, I doubt its been changed in all those 3 years, Since iv had it I think iv lubed it around 7-8 times using some dry spray crap that the local shop recommended, But instead of wasting money on that crap on my next chain im going to use some of the PJ1 stuff, Everyones saying thats the best stuff to use Thanks again all Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkwindjammer Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I might be opening a can of worms/or a good debate here-I hope its the latter I keep my engine oil after a change and use this to lube my chain, I use a small oil paint brush that can be bought in an art shop, after I've de-greased my chain with parafin (not petrol) I use a compressor to blow the chain dry, then with the tiniest amount of engine oil on the brush I spend a half hour 'painting' my chain, I then towel it dry with a scrap of old terry towel-I learned this from an old geezer who is still riding in his late 60's, he advised me to have a look at my owners manual lubrication chart and sure enough there it was in black and white-"chain lubrication-same as engine oil", I've never bought a can of lube since Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted January 13, 2011 Moderator Share Posted January 13, 2011 Only time I would do that is if I had run out of the proper stuff Jim. It doesnt stick anywhere near as good as chain lube ( I use the wet sticky type), and not that I do much these days but riding in the wet would soon see it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judzehh Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 I might be opening a can of worms/or a good debate here-I hope its the latter I keep my engine oil after a change and use this to lube my chain, I use a small oil paint brush that can be bought in an art shop, after I've de-greased my chain with parafin (not petrol) I use a compressor to blow the chain dry, then with the tiniest amount of engine oil on the brush I spend a half hour 'painting' my chain, I then towel it dry with a scrap of old terry towel-I learned this from an old geezer who is still riding in his late 60's, he advised me to have a look at my owners manual lubrication chart and sure enough there it was in black and white-"chain lubrication-same as engine oil", I've never bought a can of lube since Jim You meen when you drain the oil out of your engine you use that? and the paint brush, does that work as well as spraying it on? If its worked for you then thats one of the easiest way of saving abit of cash iv ever seen! Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judzehh Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Oh Yeh, Little update on the topic, I went and ordered a chain today, RK X-ring Sprocket set, 80 quid Looked on internet and they charge that for a chain on some sites, So yeh pretty happy about that, But then he said its 40 quid to fit and I dont have a chain tool, Pay for them to fit it or pay for a chain tool? Decisions decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkwindjammer Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 You've gotta start learning sometime Jordan-may as well make it now !, buy a chain tool-and get someone local to show you how its done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judzehh Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 You've gotta start learning sometime Jordan-may as well make it now !, buy a chain tool-and get someone local to show you how its done Thats true ! He also said a chain tool would cost around 40 pound, Im sure i could get a decent one for less then that :/ Thanks again Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baker Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I might be opening a can of worms/or a good debate here-I hope its the latter I keep my engine oil after a change and use this to lube my chain, I use a small oil paint brush that can be bought in an art shop, after I've de-greased my chain with parafin (not petrol) I use a compressor to blow the chain dry, then with the tiniest amount of engine oil on the brush I spend a half hour 'painting' my chain, I then towel it dry with a scrap of old terry towel-I learned this from an old geezer who is still riding in his late 60's, he advised me to have a look at my owners manual lubrication chart and sure enough there it was in black and white-"chain lubrication-same as engine oil", I've never bought a can of lube since Jim I Agree with the paraffin for cleaning the chain. Its cheep and works wonders, found it actually worked a lot better than the spray stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thats true ! He also said a chain tool would cost around 40 pound, Im sure i could get a decent one for less then that :/ Thanks again Jordan If you're replacing it with a chain with a split link, I would just cut the old one off & sling it , then you don't nead a splitter. Its only a thin chain & easy to cut off. You can always get one in future if you need one for a bigger bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Wheels Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 You are actually right Jim,,,,,old-school says,,,,engine oil for lubing a chain. Both my manuals say the same,, engine oil is the best for getting INTO the inside of the chain whereas modern stickey stuff lube does stick to the chain really well BUT only to the outside of the chain. So what I do is a bit of both,,,,,engine oil when I have the pacience and chain lube after that. That we gem i gave ya is handy for lubing chain,,,,,,,,saves chasing the bike arround the driveway if ya dont have a centre-stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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