johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I checked and rechecked my measurements, but as you can hear the valves are rather loud. Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris66 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 did you measure when the bike was warm or cold, if the measurements you used are for a cold engine and you done them hot they will be to wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 did you measure when the bike was warm or cold, if the measurements you used are for a cold engine and you done them hot they will be to wide. Yup, they were done cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoughMade Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 They sound a little loud to me, but microphones can be deceiving. Sounds louder on left than right. I always hear mine, but it sounds lighter than that and is almost gone at speed. What weight of oil are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris66 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The first thing I would do is double check the measurements there are a lot of xs owners on here,and I am sure one will be able to help soon. But it does sound that they are gapped to wide. Does the bike get any quieter as it warms up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 The first thing I would do is double check the measurements there are a lot of xs owners on here,and I am sure one will be able to help soon. But it does sound that they are gapped to wide. Does the bike get any quieter as it warms up? Nope, that is with the bike warmed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris66 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 did you try to do the valves because they were noisy, or is this the result of adjusting them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 did you try to do the valves because they were noisy, or is this the result of adjusting them This is the result of adjusting them. I would have to say that I had to loosen them for it to be in spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris66 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 thats as i thought, give me the exact model and year and i will ring yamaha tomorrow and get the measurements to confirm the ones you are using are correct.it doesnt take much of an over gap to sound like a bag of nails, your feeler gauge should slip through with a slight resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 thats as i thought, give me the exact model and year and i will ring yamaha tomorrow and get the measurements to confirm the ones you are using are correct.it doesnt take much of an over gap to sound like a bag of nails, your feeler gauge should slip through with a slight resistance. Thank you for the offer, but I've been using a Haynes manual, and have set it to the lowest measurement. .003 intake .006 exhaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator drewpy Posted July 23, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2010 does sound loud, could be wear in the adjusters causing wrong readings. The adjuster ends hammers the top of the valve stem and it dishes, causing you to measure the crown of the depression but not the actual gap drewps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 does sound loud, could be wear in the adjusters causing wrong readings. The adjuster ends hammers the top of the valve stem and it dishes, causing you to measure the crown of the depression but not the actual gap drewps What actions do you recommend, if wear is causing inaccurate measurements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblerdrver Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Thank you for the offer, but I've been using a Haynes manual, and have set it to the lowest measurement. .003 intake .006 exhaust I've had a couple xs400's and don't recall the valves being that noisey(but, then, I sometimes forget what I've gone out to the garage for!), altho, as mentioned above, the microphone may accentuate the noise. I forgot how the valves are opened...thru a rocker arm from the cam in the head? Could the rocker arms &/or shfts be worn? You might try using a stethoscope (long screwdriver works!) or length of hose to listen to various areas around the engine to be sure noise is coming from the valves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator drewpy Posted July 23, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2010 does sound noisy, could be that there is wear on the adjusters squewing the gaps (ie its dished, but your feelers are measuring the crown of the wear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 does sound noisy, could be that there is wear on the adjusters squewing the gaps (ie its dished, but your feelers are measuring the crown of the wear) LOL, isn't this the same thing you posted above? I was just wondering if purchasing new adjusters would give me better measurements, or if I should just try and tighten them a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator drewpy Posted July 23, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2010 LOL, isn't this the same thing you posted above? I was just wondering if purchasing new adjusters would give me better measurements, or if I should just try and tighten them a bit? bloody computer, the connections crap and I thought it didn't go through adjusters are cheap enough, I'd give it a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 bloody computer, the connections crap and I thought it didn't go through adjusters are cheap enough, I'd give it a go I will do just that, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 And done, just bought them. Is this going to be easy to do, as I can do it without taking the top part of the engine off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator drewpy Posted July 23, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2010 And done, just bought them. Is this going to be easy to do, as I can do it without taking the top part of the engine off? yep, just don't drop them in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsnownw Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 yep, just don't drop them in there You know, now I'm going to worry about that the whole time I'm working on them. It was bad enough when one of my feeler gauge tips snapped off, and it just happen to shoot out of the engine, instead of in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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