1982 XS400 RESTORATION INFORMATION

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IT IS NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE REGISTERED HERE ... RUBBER SIDE DOWN ... KAREN_AGUSTA

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NOTE: ALL OF THESE ARE MERELY MY OPINIONS ... MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE FOR RACING USE AND WILL NOT FIT THE STOCK RIDE WITHOUT CUSTOMIZATION (SUCH AS THE HIGHLY OVERSIZE FRONT TIRE AND THE QUARTER TURN THROTTLE) THEREFORE I MAKE NO PROMISE WHATSOEVER ANYTHING WRITTEN HERE IS IN ANY MANNER CORRECT ... SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE ANY OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HERE YOU DO SO COMPLETELY OF YOUR OWN CHOICE AND AT YOUR OWN RISK ... WITH NO LIABILITY TOWARDS MYSELF WHATSOVER ... HAVING ALREADY STATED NONE OF THIS INFORMATION IS VERIFIED ... THUS SHOULD YOU WISH TO READ FORWARD IT IS MERELY BECAUSE YOU WISH TO DO SO

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INITIAL PLAN IS TO BUID AN XS400 CAFE / CUSTOM USING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ...

IN THE WORLD OF XS400 THE 82-85 USES MANY DIFFERENT PARTS THAN PRIOR MODELS MAKING IT HARDER TO FIND PARTS

BEST OVERALL PARTS SOURCES FOR 82-85 DOHC XS 400 OTHER THAN BIKEBANDIT, JC-WHITNEY, DENNIS KIRK, ETC ... ARE

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http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XS_400_D.O.H.C./82-85/ ... AND ... http://www.hvccycle.com/hvcpartscatalog.htm

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INITIAL PARTS LIST FOR 82 XS400 CUSTOM RIDE IS AS FOLLOWS:

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RIDEABILITY / SUSPENSION / BRAKES

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FRONT BRAKES --- MANUFACTURER = SBS --- PART NUMBER = 528S --- PRICE = 30.95

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=19734&store=Main&catId=&productId=p19937&leafCatId=&mmyId=11767'>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=19734&store=Main&catId=&productId=p19937&leafCatId=&mmyId=11767

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REAR BRAKES --- MANUFACTURER = EBC --- PART NUMBER = 194953 --- PRICE = 28.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=194953&store=Main&catId=&productId=p194949&leafCatId=&mmyId=11767'>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=194953&store=Main&catId=&productId=p194949&leafCatId=&mmyId=11767

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BRAKE ROTOR --- MANUFACTURER = EBC --- PART NUMBER = MD2011RS --- PRICE = 115.99

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http://shop.hyperformanceparts.com/productdetail.htm?productId=7946981&ez=EBC%20Brakes~q=bidaa429zz~r=bidaa429zz~&rand=85393#505658

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MASTER CYCLINDER --- MANUFACTURER = MIKES --- PART NUMBER = 08-0255 = PRICE = 69.00

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http://www.mikesxs.net/products-71.html#products

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STAINLESSS STEEL LINE --- MANUFACTURER = RUSSEL --- PART NUMBER = R58013B --- PRICE = 34.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=195978&store=Main&catId=&productId=p195978&leafCatId=&mmyId=195978'>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=195978&store=Main&catId=&productId=p195978&leafCatId=&mmyId=195978

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FORK SEALS --- MANUFACTURER = LEAK PROOF --- PART NUMBER = 5211 --- PRICE = 26.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=147815&store=&catId=&productId=p14586&leafCatId=&mmyId=11767'>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=147815&store=&catId=&productId=p14586&leafCatId=&mmyId=11767

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FORK SPRINGS --- MANUFACTURER = HAGON --- PART NUMBER = 500-181-00 --- PRICE = 150.95

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http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/Fork_Springs.htm

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FORK BRACE --- MANUFACTURER = SPEC TWO --- PART NUMBER VERIFY WITH MANUFACTURER UPON ORDERING --- PRICE 129.95

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http://www.spec2.com/clips.html#apps

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SHOCKS --- MANUFACTURER = PROGRESSIVE SUSPENSION --- PART NUMBER = 412-4207C --- PRICE = 270.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp;jsessionid=KBXBSL5QOHA1JLA0WTISM4VMDK0OWIV0?store=&skuId=580857&mmy=

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REAR TIRE --- MANUFACTURER = AVON --- PART NUMBER = AM42 --- SIZE - MT90B16 --- PRICE = 158.99

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http://www.motorcycletire.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tires&Product_Code=PUAV324&Category_Code=

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FRONT TIRE --- MANUFACTURER = AVON --- PART NUMBER = AM41 --- SIZE = 100/90-18 --- PRICE = 132.99

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http://www.motorcycletire.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tires&Product_Code=PUAV339&Category_Code=

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CHAIN --- MANUFACTURER = RK --- PART NUMBER = 87-180536 --- PRICE = 100.95

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http://www.oldbikebarn.com/RK-530x102-O-Ring-Chain?sc=12&category=74246

REAR SPROCKET --- MANUFACTURER = SUNSTAR --- PART NUMBER = 2519637 --- PRICE = 34.95

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http://www.mawonline.com/google/11511.HTM

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FRONT SPROCKET --- MANUFACTURER = SUNSTAR --- PART NUMBER = 50116 --- PRICE = 18.95

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http://www.mawonline.com/google/11088.HTM

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TAPERED BEARING CONVERSION KIT --- MAUNFACTURER = WEMOTO - PART NUMBER = N/A --- PRICE = L-29.50

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http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XS_400_D.O.H.C./82-85/picture/Tapered_Headrace_Bearings_Set/

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FRONT WHEEL BEARING KIT --- MAUNFACTURER = WEMOTO - PART NUMBER = N/A --- PRICE = L-15.04

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http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XS_400_D.O.H.C./82-85/picture/Front_Wheel_Bearing_Kit_with_Dust_Seals/

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LEFT REAR WHEEL BEARING --- MAUNFACTURER = KYOTO - PART NUMBER = N/A --- PRICE = L-4.25

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http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XS_400_D.O.H.C./82-85/picture/Rear_Wheel_Bearing_Left/

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SPROCKET CARRIER BEARING --- MAUNFACTURER = KYOTO - PART NUMBER = N/A --- PRICE = L-4.00

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http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XS_400_D.O.H.C./82-85/picture/Sprocket_Carrier_Bearing/

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RIGHT REAR WHEEL BEARING --- MAUNFACTURER = KYOTO - PART NUMBER = N/A --- PRICE = L-4.75

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http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/XS_400_D.O.H.C./82-85/picture/Rear_Wheel_Bearing_Right/

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NOTE: THESE ITEMS ARE ALSO AVAILBLE FROM AN EXCELENT AMERICAN SUPPLIER NAMED HVC CYCLE

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http://www.hvccycle.com/hvcpartscatalog.htm

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31-0905 1 Swingarm bearing kit 130.00

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http://www.hvccycle.com/yamahabearingsbushings.htm

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22-1007 1 All Balls Tapered Bearing Kit 35.99

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0215-0043 1 Front WHEEL BEARING KIT 25-1311 17.95

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http://www.hvccycle.com/yamahabearingsbushings.htm

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HVCRD400BR 1 Rear bearing kit for XS400 also 24.99

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http://www.hvccycle.com/yamahabearingsbushings.htm

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CHASSIS - CAFE

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GRIPS --- MANUFACTURER = GALINDO --- PART NUMBER = SBCC85CH --- PRICE = 66.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp;jsessionid=C0MMZJA0INSHXLA0WTVSM4VMDK0NCIV0?store=&skuId=596316&mmy=

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HANDGAURDS --- MANUFACTURER = POWER MADD --- PART NUMBER = PM14200 --- PRICE = 33.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=615557&store=&catId=&productId=p615557&leafCatId=&mmyId='>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=615557&store=&catId=&productId=p615557&leafCatId=&mmyId=

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GAURD MOUNTS --- MANUFACTURER = POWER MADD --- PART NUMBER = PM14252 --- PRICE = 23.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=&catId=&productId=p615962&leafCatId=&mmyId='>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=&catId=&productId=p615962&leafCatId=&mmyId=

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FOOTPEGS --- MAUFACTURER = DEMON --- PART NUMBER = DEMON SPECIALTIES --- PRICE = 106.00

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http://www.demonscycle.com/Forward-Controls/Chrome-Universal-Mini-p7514822.html

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QUARTER TURN THROTTLE --- MANUFACTURER = HRC --- PART NUMBER = IMS50-TU --- PRICE = 36.00

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http://www.gpxengines.com/hrc-14-billet-throttle-p-180.html

REAR TURN SIGNAL --- MANUFACTURER = BIKEMASTER --- PART NUMBER = 26-4116 --- PRICE = 29.90

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http://www.darkhorsemotorcycleparts.com/products/REAR-TURN-SIGNAL-for-YAMAHA-XS400-SR500-TX500-XS500-TX650-XS650-TX750-XS750-XS850-XS1100.html

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FRONT TURN SIGNAL --- MANUFACTURER = BIKEMASTER --- PART NUMBER = 26-4115 --- PRICE = 29.90

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http://www.darkhorsemotorcycleparts.com/products/FRONT-TURN-SIGNAL-for-YAMAHA-XS400-SR500-TX500-XS500-TX650-XS650-TX750-XS750-XS850-XS1100.html

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DUAL WAVE HEADLAMP --- MAUFACTURER = DEMON --- PART NUMBER = DEMON SPECIALTIES --- PRICE = 89.00

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http://www.demonscycle.com/Lights-and-Blinkers/Headlights/Dual-Wave-Motorcycle-p6688439.html

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MALTESE CROSS MIRRORS --- MANUFACTURER = DRAG SPECIALTIES --- PART NUMBER = 19016060 --- PRICE = 34.95

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http://www.demonscycle.com/Mirrors/Standard-HD/Maltese-Cross-Motorcycle-p2770366.html

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TAIL LIGHTS --- MANUFACTURER = DRAG SPECIALTIES --- PART NUMBER = DS272375 --- PRICE = 98.00 {STUDS USE AS LENS SCREWS}

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=&catId=&productId=pH21017&leafCatId=&mmyId='>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=&catId=&productId=pH21017&leafCatId=&mmyId=

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PAINT AND PAINTING SUPPLIES

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TANK --- MANUFACTURER = I STENCILS --- PART NUMBER = 36-00007 --- SIZE = 8 X 8 --- PRICE = 8.99

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http://www.istencils.com/product-p/36-00007.htm

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SIDE COVERS --- MANUFACTURER = I STENCILS --- PART NUMBER = 02-00016 --- SIZE = 5 X 5 --- PRICE = 4.99 x 2

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http://www.istencils.com/product-p/02-00016.htm

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FENDERS --- MANUFACTURER = I STENCILS --- PART NUMBER = 06-00018 --- SIZE = 5 X 5 --- PRICE = 4.99 X 2

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http://www.istencils.com/product-p/06-00018.htm

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PLUM CRAZY METALLIC ACRYLIC LACQUER PAINT KIT --- MANUFACTURER = RESTORATION SHOP --- PART NUMBER = B001B3ZVGI --- PRICE = 119.95

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http://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Metallic-ACRYLIC-LACQUER-Paint/dp/B001B3ZVGI/

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RALLY GREEN METALLIC ACRYLIC LACQUER PAINT KIT --- MANUFACTURER = RESTORATION SHOP --- PART NUMBER = B001B38QXS --- PRICE = 119.95

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http://www.amazon.com/Rally-Green-Metallic-ACRYLIC-LACQUER/dp/B001B38QXS/

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CLEAR COAT KIT AFTER 90 DAY LACQUER CURE + 90 DAY CURE TO INSTALL --- MANUFACTURER = EASTWOOD --- PART NUMBER = B003G53KC6 --- PRICE = 134.99

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EXHAUST SYSTEM

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MUFFLER --- MANUFACTURER = EMGO --- PART NUMBER = 8084051 --- PRICE = 140.00

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp;jsessionid=3T3LXWBWLRUUPLA0WTISM4VMDK0OWIV0?store=&skuId=431286&mmy=

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NOTE: HEADER PIPES - SPLITTERS - COLLARS - BOTH ENGINE SIDE COVERS - BREATHER COVER - SISSY BAR - AND - CARB TOP COVERS - FORK TUBES - SEND OUT TO

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EITHER ... ... OR ... ... FOR RE-CHROMING

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NOTE: A COMPLETE AND DYNO TUNED EXHAUST SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE FROM ...

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http://www.macperformance.com/store/category.cfm?SID=3&Category_ID=901

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ENGINE / BIKE - START UP

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COILS --- MANUFACTURER = WEMOTO --- PART NUMBER = COIL --- PRICE = L-29.36

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CLUTCH --- MANUFACTURER = EBC --- PART NUMBER = CK2279 --- PRICE = 64.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=381841&store=Main&catId=&productId=p389471&leafCatId=&mmyId=12535'>http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=381841&store=Main&catId=&productId=p389471&leafCatId=&mmyId=12535

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CLUTCH SPRINGS --- MANUFACTURER = EBC --- PART NUMBER = CSK2 --- PRICE = 9.99

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?

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skuId=382006&store=Main&catId=&productId=p381995&leafCatId=&mmyId=12535

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K-N OIL FILTER --- MANUFACTURER = K AND N --- PART NUMBER = KN-144 --- PRICE = 6.74

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http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp;jsessionid=AE5DO2K1PYWNVLA0WTKSM4VMDK0NCIV0?store=Main&skuId=303555&mmy=

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CAMS --- MANUFACTURER = MEGACYCLE --- PART NUMBER = CUSTOMER CORE --- PRICE = 264.00

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http://www.megacyclecams.com/catalog/catalog.pdf

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PETCOCK REBUILD --- MAUFACTURER = PRO CYCLE --- PART NUMBER = 18-2699 --- PRICE = 29.95

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http://www.procycledepot.com/content/p/8/catid/9537/pid/85646/Fuel_Petcock_Rebuild_Kits?item=1710641

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THROTTLE CABLE --- MANUFACTURER = MOTION PRO --- PART NUMBER = 06-5069 --- PRICE = 14.96

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http://www.darkhorsemotorcycleparts.com/products/THROTTLE-CABLE-for-YAMAHA-XS400-XS750-XS850-XS1100.html

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OVERSIZE GEAR LEVER --- MANUFACTURER = JASONS --- PART NUMBER = 19-6502 --- PRICE = 15.00

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http://www.mikesxs.net/products-65.html#products

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NEW CLUTCH LEVER --- MANUFACTURER = BIKEMASTER --- PART NUMBER = 07-1241 --- PRICE = 7.96

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http://www.darkhorsemotorcycleparts.com/products/CLUTCH-LEVER-for-YAMAHA-DT175-DT250-XT250-XT500-XS400-XJ550-XJ650-XS650-XS750-XV750-XS1100.html

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YTX51-BS BATTERY --- MANUFACTURER = ADVENTURE POWER --- PART NUMBER = YTX5L-BS --- PRICE = 34.96

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http://www.budgetbatteries.com/ytx5l-bs-battery-bb-047725.html

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GLOSS BLACK HIGH TEMP CERAMIC ENGINE PAINT --- MANUFACTURER = EASTWOOD --- PART NUMBER = B002S46T38 --- PRICE = 32.99

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http://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-Gloss-Black-Ceramic-Engine/dp/B002S46T38/

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REBUILD THE CARBS AND GO UP TWO JET SIZES OVER STOCK + VALVES SPRINGS BEARINGS PISTONS RINGS

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FORK OIL - SPARK PLUGS - PLUG BOOTS WIRES - INSTALL PARTS - REBUILD FORKS - PAINT THE BIKE - ETC

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ALL OF THESE ARE MERELY MY OPINIONS ... MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE FOR RACING USE AND WILL NOT FIT THE STOCK RIDE WITHOUT CUSTOMIZATION (SUCH AS THE HIGHLY OVERSIZE FRONT TIRE AND THE QUARTER TURN THROTTLE)THEREFORE I MAKE NO PROMISE WHATSOEVER ANYTHING WRITTEN HERE IS IN ANY MANNER CORRECT ... SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE ANY OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HERE YOU DO SO COMPLETELY OF YOUR OWN CHOICE AND AT YOUR OWN RISK ... WITH NO LIABILITY TOWARDS MYSELF WHATSOVER ... HAVING ALREADY STATED NONE OF THIS INFORMATION IS VERIFIED ... THUS SHOULD YOU WISH TO RELAY UPON ANYTHING YOU HAVE READ IN THESE STATEMENTS YOUR ACTIONS ARE MERELY BECAUSE YOU WISH TO DO SO AND OF COURSE THERE IS NO GAURANTEE ANY OF THE LINKS SHALL WORK AS LINKS ARE CHANGED FREQUENTLY ... KAREN_AGUSTA

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ONE LAST ITEM ... I AM NEW HERE AND MANY OF YOU DO NOT KNOW ME ... KAREN_AGUSTA ... THUS AS A FORM OF INTRODUCTION INCLUDING AN ARTICLE I HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT MOTORCYCLES AND CHOOSING YOUR FIRST ONE (THIS IS RELATIVE TO THE XS400 AS IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE A BEGINNERS BIKE) ONCE AGAIN ... ALL OF THESE ARE MERELY MY OPINIONS ... MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE FOR RACING USE AND WILL NOT FIT THE STOCK RIDE WITHOUT CUSTOMIZATION (SUCH AS THE HIGHLY OVERSIZE FRONT TIRE AND THE QUARTER TURN THROTTLE) THEREFORE I MAKE NO PROMISE WHATSOEVER ANYTHING WRITTEN HERE IS IN ANY MANNER CORRECT ... SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE ANY OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HERE YOU DO SO COMPLETELY OF YOUR OWN CHOICE AND AT YOUR OWN RISK ... WITH NO LIABILITY TOWARDS MYSELF WHATSOVER ... HAVING ALREADY STATED NONE OF THIS INFORMATION IS VERIFIED ... THUS SHOULD YOU WISH TO RELAY UPON ANYTHING YOU HAVE READ IN THESE STATEMENTS YOUR ACTIONS ARE MERELY BECAUSE YOU WISH TO DO SO ... AND OF COURSE THERE IS NO GAURANTEE ANY OF THE LINKS SHALL WORK AS LINKS ARE CHANGED FREQUENTLY... KAREN_AGUSTA

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Because I know "just a little" about motorcycles and the fact that

An engine is essentially an air pump of a combustible mixture

Regarding air - it is not "sucked" or "pulled" into the engine

There are no little hands reaching out grabing air molecules

Air may only be pushed into an engine it is never pulled into one

The air pressure at sea level is 14.7 pounds per square inch

On the intake stroke carb and intake valve in the open position

The piston is travelling downward creating a void inside the engine

Thus there is an "empty space" being made inside the engines cylinder

The 14.7 PSI pressure on the opposite site of the carb and valve

PUSHES AIR into the empty space created by the downward travelling piston

Thus in order to increase the amout of air a given engine can pump

Its design must maximize airflow this is known as volumetric efficiency

Or the air pressure into the engine be increased via super or turbo charging

The same is true for a vacuum cleaner or any other such device air is pushed in

Another board asked me to write an article on purchasing your first bike

For the discussion I used motorcycle racing as the primary topic

That an understanding of the machine itself may thereby be obtained

Thus making selection the device best suited to your purposes easier ... Karen

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x7lwPzayHI

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Moto GP / F1 Racing Engines

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Engine revolutions fourteen thousand rpm at starting line

Rider slips clutch out torque / not well at low rpm

Large drop in RPM as engine propels bike from start

Once motorcycle returns to proper rpm range

Must at all times be kept there by selecting correct gear

Usually between eight and fourteen thousand rpms

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NHEAxKGw8Y

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As motorcycle begins to move it is held upright

This occurs at very low revolutions through gyroscopic precession

Imagine a bottle tied to a string you hold in your hand

The bottle and the end of the string is one inch above the ground

You begin to spin in a circle and as you do so the bottle rises

Once you are spinning fast you feel the tension rise upon the string

That is because the atoms in the bottle are being "thrown" away from you

The only reason the bottle remains is the strength of the string

Exceeds the tension the bottle applies to it however

Should you let go of the string or the string should break

The bottle will fly away ... this is what occurs in a motorcycle wheel

The only difference is that it occurs in a vertically instead of horizontally

Here as in discuss you have made yourself the axis about this the item processes

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H98BgRzpOM

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To test this to the following ...

Get an old bicycle wheel

Put a bar through where the axle was

Use some duct tape on the bar to keep it centered

Have a friend spin the wheel fast as you hold it

Now try to turn the wheel to the left ... it does not

The wheels force shall alter direction and flip over

Here she is trying to turn the wheel to the left of right

When she does you shall see what occurs.

This is gyroscopic motion / inertia

What is important to realize here other than what you see

Is that these people are not "flipping the wheel over"

They are with their hands attempting to turn it to the left or right

The flipping to the side you see is the gyroscopes resistance to that

Thus is is important to remember a motorcycle is not a car

It is a system based upon two spinning gyroscopes

Therefore it reacts as one and must be driven that way

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAavF8EJzw

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Directed forward rider pushes bars away from direction of turn

Wheels act as gyroscopes countersteering leans bike into turn

First Law of Motion: Body in motion persists in a straight line

unless compelled to change

This is one of the hardest for new riders

Also many riders are not taught this

And even experienced riders may argue this

However the fact remains to steer a bike to the left

You must push the handlebars to the right

To steer a motorcycle to the right

You must turn the bars to the left

This is not only important to turn at high speed

If you have a car coming at you from the right

And you are travelling over ten miles per hour

You must turn towards the object

If you own a bicycle find a hill and ride down it

Get the bike going fairly quick and very very gently

Turn the bars to the left and you will turn to the right

Or push on the left handgrip go left

I am including this to such a great degree

Because if you ride a bike you MUST understand this

In racing we use this to "throw the bike over hard"

This allows us to dive into a turn steeply

I am including this with some degree of intensity

There is also a myth that a motorcycle is turned by leaning

I do not recommend you try this unless you are an experienced rider

Even then you may dump your bike however as a demonstration

I one time leaned far to the left knee down and

By countersteering turned the bike to the right

Thus leaning is a part of turning but there is more to it

That is how the racer throws the bike into the turn so quickly

Because if you ride a motorcycle it may save your life one day

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Ok so that is how the racer throws the bike down into the turn so quickly

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Braking = Kinetic Energy and thermodynamics

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From wikipedia

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The kinetic energy of an object is the extra energy which it possesses due to its motion. It is defined as the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its current velocity. Having gained this energy during its acceleration, the body maintains this kinetic energy unless its speed changes. Negative work of the same magnitude would be required to return the body to a state of rest from that velocity.

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Friction is not a fundamental force, as it is derived from electromagnetic force between charged particles, including electrons, protons, atoms, and molecules, and so cannot be calculated from first principles, but instead must be found empirically. When contacting surfaces move relative to each other, the friction between the two surfaces converts kinetic energy into thermal energy, or heat.

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In other words energy was applied to accelerate the object

Thus energy must be applied to slow the object

In machinery we use frictional energy converting motion to heat

The kinetic energy of an object is the extra energy

Which it possesses due to its motion

The kinetic energy of a single object

Is completely frame-dependent (relative)

For example, a bullet racing by a non-moving observer

Has kinetic energy in the reference to frame of this observer

But the same bullet has zero kinetic energy to itself

Thus at steady speed the motorcycle applies zero kinetic energy to the rider

For the rider is not part of the same travelling system as the motorcycle

However this becomes a completely different situation

Slowing motorcycle from 200to 40 mph via brakes

frictional conversion of forward momentum / energy to heat using

Through the use of advanced ceramic materials

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The idea in racing unlike in road riding is this

On the road you want to brake in a slow and smooth motion

Taking your time slowing the bike easily

In racing you want to brake as late as you possibly can

Hammer on the brakes and then get back on the throttle

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However there are severe issues in motorcycle braking

1: if you are hard in a turn braking will want to throw the bike over

2: This is called highsiding where the bike flips you over itself

3: Not too many braking examples however it is common in racing

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Yet another issue is the independent front and rear brakes

Thus you must balance the force applied to both brakes perfectly

On the front brake if you apply it wrong and use

To much force and you shall go over the front wheel

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Or you shall put the wheel into a skid throwing you down

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However much more common is the rear wheel lock up

Though I do not have vids of that if you have ever seen

A motorcycle try to stop quickly and the rear wheel go everywhere

You see the read wheel slide all over ... the rider must counteract that

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZqXPhK_3LE

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Also we do not have windshield wipers

Remember unlike on a car where you can stab the brakes

On a motorbike even in a panic or in a race

You must perfectly modulate the brakes or you will crash

You can easily crash through improper braking alone

Furthermore remember the ONLY thing keeping you upright

I gyroscopic precession. Thus should you lock up a wheel

Even at 60 MPG there is nothing keeping you upright at all

Therefore as the racer brakes they must do so perfectly

On both wheels in order to slow the bike correctly

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Centrifugal Force:

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As you turn certifugal force wants you to go to the outside of the turn

lean angle of the motorbike counteract the force pushing you to the outside

Here is where Chemistry comes into play for unlike the older days

Today the advanced compounds in the tires allow lean angles to 60

Degrees-Very fine line between optimum cornering and crashing

Outward and downward forward forces balanced precisely

You must consider the camber of the curve to determine speed

You must also know if it is a decreasing radius curve as well

One other common issue is called going wide on the turn

To lean a motorcycle hard over is frightening it feels like falling

So due to this fear to do not throw the bike over hard enough

By this choice you do not make the turn and you drift wide on the corner

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHTzOskcQE

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Thus a motorcycle excellent example how physics work

A motorcycle at a constant speed

defined as "v" for velocity in motion

Is about to enter a level, circular, curve

The curve is defined a r for the radius of the curve

The radius r lean angle from the vertical position

Is approximated by the following relationship

First I shall need to explain theta ...

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Theta ... Theta is used When determining the measure of the angle in the work equation, it is important to recognize that the angle has a precise definition - it is the angle between the force and the displacement vector. An explanation would be applying a force to displace a motorbike up a hill to the top of the hill. A force is applied to a bike to displace it up the hill at constant speed. Say 30 MPH.

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Several incline angles are used progressively steeper thus you must increase the force to maintain 30 mph. However do not forget that the force is always applied parallel to the incline. And the displacement of the motorbike is also parallel to the incline as well. These are defined a F for force and D for displacement. Since F and d are in the same direction, the angle theta in the work equation is 0 degrees. For they are in a relationship of zero degrees to one another. Nevertheless you may wish to experienced the strong temptation to measure the angle of incline and use it in the equation. Do not do so because angle. It is defined as the angle between the force and the displacement vector.

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Next issue is the definition of Tangent

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Tangent is as follows ... a straight line or plane that touches a curve or curved surface at a point but does not intersect it at that point ratio of the opposite to the adjacent side of a right-angled triangle ... Tangent line to a curve at a given point is the straight line that "just touches" the curve at that point ... Tangent plane to a curve is the plane that contains

all the lines tangent to a specific point on a surface

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The equation for it is as follows

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tan (\theta) = \frac {v^2} {rg} where g is the acceleration due to gravity

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What this means is as follows ... the speed of the bike and the weight of the bike, the radius, displacement, and camber of the turn shall determine the amount you lean and balance the bike to thereby counteracting the centrifugul force trying to make you go wide on the turn allowing you (provided you do not exceed the frictional capability of the tires in doing so) to steer to the apex of the turn properly and set the bike for the next turn.

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Thus when people ask me what should my first bike be. Sure the common answers would be

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The Ninja 250r

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The Suzuki Tu250

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http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%...egory=standard

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The yamaha V Star250 (AN EXCELLENT BEGINNERS RIDE OF HIGH QUALITY AND BEAUTIFUL FINISH)

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http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/...89/0/home.aspx

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The Honda 250 rebel

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http://powersports.honda.com/2009/rebel.aspx

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However here shows how to ride your motorcycle as this person is doing ... taking an extremely common and well made street bike (the Ninja 250r which I plan to purchase and am already set up with the dealer to do) onto the track and showing what a little 250cc street bike can do when ridden by skilled riders ... on the track ... not on the street ...

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ALL OF THESE ARE MERELY MY OPINIONS ... MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE FOR RACING USE AND WILL NOT FIT THE STOCK RIDE WITHOUT CUSTOMIZATION (SUCH AS THE HIGHLY OVERSIZE FRONT TIRE AND THE QUARTER TURN THROTTLE) THEREFORE I MAKE NO PROMISE WHATSOEVER ANYTHING WRITTEN HERE IS IN ANY MANNER CORRECT ... SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE ANY OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HERE YOU DO SO COMPLETELY OF YOUR OWN CHOICE AND AT YOUR OWN RISK ... WITH NO LIABILITY TOWARDS MYSELF WHATSOVER ... HAVING ALREADY STATED NONE OF THIS INFORMATION IS VERIFIED ... THUS SHOULD YOU WISH TO RELAY UPON ANYTHING YOU HAVE READ IN THESE STATEMENTS YOUR ACTIONS ARE MERELY BECAUSE YOU WISH TO DO SO ... AND OF COURSE THERE IS NO GAURANTEE ANY OF THE LINKS SHALL WORK AS LINKS ARE CHANGED FREQUENTLY ... KAREN_AGUSTA

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[Airhead]

Its just OVER THE TOP

[JYA12R]

Its just OVER THE TOP

I did feel the wind of it though...... Thanks Karen

[Karen_Agusta]

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Good Morning my fellow riders

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SURFACING THE ATTACK = A definition of the statement "over the top" ... http://www.yourdictionary.com/over-the-top ... so unconventional, exaggerated, or excessive as to be considered outrageous, unbelievable, ridiculous

Yet upon so easily stating my authorship to be unbelievable and ridiculous I hereby expose the attack and challange you to find one error in any of the statments I have made in my previous articles. For you so easily attack me when it is quite clear that which I have written is both accuarate and truthful. Thus rendering your statement to be what it is. Yet another ill-founded attack within a world of such attacks I shall always live in.

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While I do clearly understand I may come into contact with those possesing prodigiously minimal levels of acetylcholine causing them to be impuissant at determining the fact that my statements are rather clear and meant in the finest manner to be helpful. There shall always be those existing within a mesozoic evolutionary level. Thus I am well aware those persons shall peregrinate away from any percieved by them as cerebral highbrows. Ergo it was expected upon my posting such an article I would brush against several puerile and obtuse anthropoid simpletons who shall engage in the examination of that which I have written as hypercognitive. Inasmuch as it my known supposition there would be those who feel they are being inundated with a copious profusion of superfluously exorbitant polysyllabic verbiage. Thus I remain confidently existant that the information presented in the aforementioned authorship of that which I have writen shall be of value to those possessing a reasonable degree of congnitive, intellectual, and synaptic amplitude capacities. That I may at this point come into contact with such individuals and entwine oneself within the grace of thier accompaniment.

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For to any owner of a 1982 Yamaha XS400J DOHC Maxim I have not only provided almost every part needed to restore the motorcycle, I have provided the manufacturer of those parts and the lowest price I was able to obtain - from the supplier I deemed to be the most reliable. Furthermore I have provided the part number of each item that the person may run thier own internet search for the part along with the price of the item. Thus the individual may obtain a clear idea of the resoration cost prior to the purchase of an XS400. Beyond that I have gone so far as to provide "one-click" access to those parts making it incredibly easy for the person to view them. This also is combined with a fine library of part supplies for the Yamaha XS400 DOHC model. It took over three weeks to assemble this information and having completed this effort I made the determination the amalgamated information may be of use to others. Thus I posted it here with the intent of kindness. Rather than recieving any appreciation whatsoever for having done so I am quite surprised to find resentment towards that which I have done.

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The article on motorcycle physics is my personal introduction as I possess a degree in computer programming and mechanical engineering. Along with that I have over twenty years experience in the world of vintage motorcycles specializing in the restoration and cafe customization of Triumph, Norton, BSA, Royal Enfiend and the Honda CB350 model. Whithin my introduction which no one by any means was under duress to read was a wealth of information and many enjoyable videos related to motorcycling. This combined with an initial overview of the physics by which a motorcycle operates thereby giving an overall uderstanding of the device to those who have never owned one. Once again in the hopes this article would be of help to a new motorcyclist in choosing their first motorcycle. Once again for this I am only presented with resentment.

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I had enough of this in junior-high and I shall never again allow such events to be targeted against me. Having lived a lifetime of resentment for my congnitive abilities (along with another issue) ... Yes there was a time in my life negative comments regarding both issues would have taken thier toll upon me. However I am beyond that in my life. Thus at this point should there be any here who actually wish to speak with me about Yamaha motorcycles I will be happy to have chat with you. Should such an event fail to occur and there be no persons upon this board who seek to engage with me in pleasurable dialog regaring the joys of two wheeled vehicles. I shall move on to the group for intellectuals I run on the internet confident that my intellectual capacity is that of which I should take pride in and in no way be ashamed of.

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NOTE: As a noticable difference when positing highly similar information to the BMW owners club I was greeted with friendship and appreciation.

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Thereby leaving only this statement.

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If I am over your top you are by definition under my bottom and I hope you enjoy your time there!

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And to any who did actually read and enjoy my authorship

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Rubber Side Down my new friends

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Karen

[barkwindjammer]

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Good Morning my fellow riders

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SURFACING THE ATTACK = A definition of the statement "over the top" ... http://www.yourdictionary.com/over-the-top ... so unconventional, exaggerated, or excessive as to be considered outrageous, unbelievable, ridiculous

Yet upon so easily stating my authorship to be unbelievable and ridiculous I hereby expose the attack and challange you to find one error in any of the statments I have made in my previous articles. For you so easily attack me when it is quite clear that which I have written is both accuarate and truthful. Thus rendering your statement to be what it is. Yet another ill-founded attack within a world of such attacks I shall always live in.

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While I do clearly understand I may come into contact with those possesing prodigiously minimal levels of acetylcholine causing them to be impuissant at determining the fact that my statements are rather clear and meant in the finest manner to be helpful. There shall always be those existing within a mesozoic evolutionary level. Thus I am well aware those persons shall peregrinate away from any percieved by them as cerebral highbrows. Ergo it was expected upon my posting such an article I would brush against several puerile and obtuse anthropoid simpletons who shall engage in the examination of that which I have written as hypercognitive. Inasmuch as it my known supposition there would be those who feel they are being inundated with a copious profusion of superfluously exorbitant polysyllabic verbiage. Thus I remain confidently existant that the information presented in the aforementioned authorship of that which I have writen shall be of value to those possessing a reasonable degree of congnitive, intellectual, and synaptic amplitude capacities. That I may at this point come into contact with such individuals and entwine oneself within the grace of thier accompaniment.

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For to any owner of a 1982 Yamaha XS400J DOHC Maxim I have not only provided almost every part needed to restore the motorcycle, I have provided the manufacturer of those parts and the lowest price I was able to obtain - from the supplier I deemed to be the most reliable. Furthermore I have provided the part number of each item that the person may run thier own internet search for the part along with the price of the item. Thus the individual may obtain a clear idea of the resoration cost prior to the purchase of an XS400. Beyond that I have gone so far as to provide "one-click" access to those parts making it incredibly easy for the person to view them. This also is combined with a fine library of part supplies for the Yamaha XS400 DOHC model. It took over three weeks to assemble this information and having completed this effort I made the determination the amalgamated information may be of use to others. Thus I posted it here with the intent of kindness. Rather than recieving any appreciation whatsoever for having done so I am quite surprised to find resentment towards that which I have done.

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The article on motorcycle physics is my personal introduction as I possess a degree in computer programming and mechanical engineering. Along with that I have over twenty years experience in the world of vintage motorcycles specializing in the restoration and cafe customization of Triumph, Norton, BSA, Royal Enfiend and the Honda CB350 model. Whithin my introduction which no one by any means was under duress to read was a wealth of information and many enjoyable videos related to motorcycling. This combined with an initial overview of the physics by which a motorcycle operates thereby giving an overall uderstanding of the device to those who have never owned one. Once again in the hopes this article would be of help to a new motorcyclist in choosing their first motorcycle. Once again for this I am only presented with resentment.

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I had enough of this in junior-high and I shall never again allow such events to be targeted against me. Having lived a lifetime of resentment for my congnitive abilities (along with another issue) ... Yes there was a time in my life negative comments regarding both issues would have taken thier toll upon me. However I am beyond that in my life. Thus at this point should there be any here who actually wish to speak with me about Yamaha motorcycles I will be happy to have chat with you. Should such an event fail to occur and there be no persons upon this board who seek to engage with me in pleasurable dialog regaring the joys of two wheeled vehicles. I shall move on to the group for intellectuals I run on the internet confident that my intellectual capacity is that of which I should take pride in and in no way be ashamed of.

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NOTE: As a noticable difference when positing highly similar information to the BMW owners club I was greeted with friendship and appreciation.

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Thereby leaving only this statement.

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If I am over your top you are by definition under my bottom and I hope you enjoy your time there!

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And to any who did actually read and enjoy my authorship

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Rubber Side Down my new friends

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Karen

so unable to rise above, you simply or should I say nievely 'counter' such un-educated retorts with equal un-intelect, so your OTT style has been compromised thus!

keep it simple stupid-this site is mainly populated by Homo Sapiens-

[Airhead]

SURFACING THE ATTACK = A definition of the statement "over the top" ... http://www.yourdictionary.com/over-the-top ... so unconventional, exaggerated, or excessive as to be considered outrageous, unbelievable, ridiculous

Yet upon so easily stating my authorship to be unbelievable and ridiculous I hereby expose the attack and challange you to find one error in any of the statments I have made in my previous articles. For you so easily attack me when it is quite clear that which I have written is both accuarate and truthful. Thus rendering your statement to be what it is. Yet another ill-founded attack within a world of such attacks I shall always live in.

Karen

I'll settle for excessive, quite appropriate really for a load of guff about Xs's If you think I attacked you, you would love to meet our Goff! I never did say your guff was unbelievable or ridiculous, that is your interpretation of what I said ...please yourself

Yep we have an occasional spammer on this board and they sometimes write stuff in the style of your post, it seems at the moment you are not one of them but at the time I replied I wasnt sure.

While I do clearly understand I may come into contact with those possesing prodigiously minimal levels of acetylcholine causing them to be impuissant at determining the fact that my statements are rather clear and meant in the finest manner to be helpful. There shall always be those existing within a mesozoic evolutionary level. Thus I am well aware those persons shall peregrinate away from any percieved by them as cerebral highbrows. Ergo it was expected upon my posting such an article I would brush against several puerile and obtuse anthropoid simpletons who shall engage in the examination of that which I have written as hypercognitive. Inasmuch as it my known supposition there would be those who feel they are being inundated with a copious profusion of superfluously exorbitant polysyllabic verbiage. Thus I remain confidently existant that the information presented in the aforementioned authorship of that which I have writen shall be of value to those possessing a reasonable degree of congnitive, intellectual, and synaptic amplitude capacities. That I may at this point come into contact with such individuals and entwine oneself within the grace of thier accompaniment.

Karen

Fuck me I bet youre great at scrabble.

Once again in the hopes this article would be of help to a new motorcyclist in choosing their firstnce again for this I am only presented with resentment.

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I had enough of this in junior-high and I shall never again allow such events to be targeted against me. Having lived a lifetime of resentment for my congnitive abilities (along with another issue) ... Yes there was a time in my life negative comments regarding both issues would have taken thier toll upon me. However I am beyond that in my life.Karen

Why bring it up then?

I shall move on to the group for intellectuals I run on the internet confident that my intellectual capacity is that of which I should take pride in and in no way be ashamed of.

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NOTE: As a noticable difference when positing highly similar information to the BMW owners club I was greeted with friendship and appreciation.

Karen

I think your far too intelligent for this ere forum too. Ejoy the BMUU forum

If I am over your top you are by definition under my bottom and I hope you enjoy your time there!

Karen

That would be funny if I said you were over MY top, however If you look again I said over THE top, this by definition does not put me under your bottom.Nice try

[Karen_Agusta]

To both of you ... I am not a spammer ... I am sorry you felt me to be one ... I enjoyed the qaulity of both of your replies ... as that was my intent ... to illicit responses ... thereby gauging your replies ... I think we shall get along fine ... as I truly love motorcycles and have given my life to these wonderful creations ... once you get to know me I am a geat deal of fun ... having existed in the world of vintage motorcycle racing ... I hope you are both doing well today ... Rubber Side Down (meant sincerely) ... Karen

[dtmf]

i can't wait to see some pic's of your progress on this bike . will you be doing most of the work yourself ? look's like your building more of a cruser/bobber/hardly davidson than a cafe style bike

[Airhead]

To both of you ... I am not a spammer ... I am sorry you felt me to be one ... I enjoyed the qaulity of both of your replies ... as that was my intent ... to illicit responses ... thereby gauging your replies ... I think we shall get along fine ... as I truly love motorcycles and have given my life to these wonderful creations ... once you get to know me I am a geat deal of fun ... having existed in the world of vintage motorcycle racing ... I hope you are both doing well today ... Rubber Side Down (meant sincerely) ... Karen

Welcome to the forum Karen

[Karen_Agusta]

It is so nice to meet you

You are completely correct ... and thank you so much for lookng through my list and visualizng the ride I am building. I do greatly appreciate you havng done so. While I greatly prefer the cafe racer with clip ons and Norman Hyde rearsets this doggie is for two. Thus no lay down tank and solo seat on this puppy ... add to that the 18 inch front tire and the 16 inch rear it is a "special" ... therefore it seemed the bobber look to be more appropriate than attempting to take a "raked" machine and go "ACE Cafe / Rocker" ... http://www.ace-cafe-london.com/cafe-racers.aspx ... with the ride.

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Regardng your other question ... Yes I shall be doing all of the work myself (thank you for asking by the way

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The only part I am not sure about is the exhaust ... while the dunstalls are nice a set of straight 3/4 inch baffled drag pipes may work better for the overall look ... http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=&catId=&productId=pH44738&leafCatId=&mmyId= ...I usually do {four per side - total of eight} in a straight 3/4 inch 304 stainless steel 16 gauge pipe ... http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/tube-pipe-bar-38/round-tubing-16-gauge-64/304-stainless-65/ ... http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/304-stainless-steel-16-gauge-53/ ... Then by extending the pipe about two inches past the rear tire / back of the bike ... this gives the ride a very unique look of straight drag pipe, flows air well, is not too loud - and provides excellent ground clearance ... however this is expensive as I have to purchase all needed 304 stainless steel pipe ... fabricate the exhaust and then send it out to be chromed ... though when done I think it would be better for the intended outcome especially with the "lopey" cams intend to install ... However I am curious ... which do you think would look better?

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DTMF I shall be happy to post pictures as it comes together. It is in tear down now so there is little to post.

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It is so nice to meet you my new friend

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Rubber Side Down

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Karen

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i can't wait to see some pic's of your progress on this bike . will you be doing most of the work yourself ? look's like your building more of a cruser/bobber/hardly davidson than a cafe style bike

.. Hardly Ablesome the only bike whch attempts to make up for it's lack of acceleraton through it's inability to stop or change direction

[JYA12R]

Hardly Ablesome the only bike whch attempts to make up for it's lack of acceleraton through it's inability to stop or change direction

OH, I've been telling my son-in-law that he rides a Hardly Dangerous motorcycle, your words seem to indicate it is, in fact, very dangerous.....Rick

[barkwindjammer]

Sorry for my initial dismissal Karen I hope you weren't offended, I feel quite stupid now ,

reading your posts again has planted a seed of interest, so,,, I've set up a subscription with my newsagent for more reading, my first issue of 'What the forks' magazine comes with a free LSD tab

No seriously its not my thing, however there are a few members of the YOC who are into the 'sciency stuff, Up-yours (yes its a users name) could spend hours in diligent chat with you-drop him some PM's (personal messages), he was telling me the other night he thinks you need a good 'boffin'

[Speedshop]

It'll look like you crashed into the chav section of 'stick on tat for cars' at Halfords with all that demon tweaks rubbish on it.

[Karen_Agusta]

To my new freinds:

JYA12R ... As long as your son enjoys his ride and you get to ride with him that is the most important thing ... though I am glad you enjoyed my comment and It is nice to meet you too ... By the way if you don't mind my asking what is your ride my new freind ?

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Oldgitonabike ... being an old git you would probably appreciate my quote from another post I wrote today ... ... {"while I agree with you that in regards to motorcycle physics Newton does deserve credt I can not "count out" Kenny Roberts, John Surtees, Joey Dunlop or Eddie Lawson either" Though I did forget to add Freddie Spencer to that list} ... for you would have to be an old git for those names to have meaning to you ... Either way Old Git thank you for your welcome ... it is graciously accepted.

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Barkwindjammer ... don't worry ... you have put away any "issues" you and I may of had quite well ... I am not like everyone else by any means and I can see how a misunderstanding may occur ... as to feeling stupid ... "my first issue of 'What the forks' magazine comes with a free LSD tab" ... if you were on LSD at the time don't worry about it ... Speaking of LSD and those days ... here is a snall fact you may enjoy ... if you see the actor Morgan Freeman ... he was Easy Reader on Sesame Street.

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Speedshop ... thanks for the info ... that is kind of the idea ... I know this is going to sound sad but I have twenty years building cafe racers and vintage race bikes ... but this is my first cruiser ... however I have many years experience building hot rods and musclecars ... Thus I want to go for that Blower, Sidepipes, Flames, look ... ... ... ... ... to give to Harley Dudes something to compete with in the massively overdone demon tweak / muscle bike / bitchin ride - category.

To all of you ... this is my world and the type of bike I do know how to build ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrinaKe657o ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dNXnxYN5OI ... ... Thus I shall freely admit I am out of my leauge and could use help in the "bitch'in ride" world. I have even considered putting "1000" on the side covers to really throw them off. Though maybe the dual led maltese cross tail-lights may be a bit much ... Hey ... Since you seem to know something about this type of build if you have any suggestions for parts ... please by all means let me know or show me what your design would be. Though when done I do want this to have the look of a serious muscle / drag / sissy-bar (yes I do know how dangerous they are) bike for two.

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Most of all I am glad to meet all of you and have the opportunity to talk with my fellow riders.

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Rubber Side Down

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Karen

[Airhead]

Oldgitonabike ... being an old git you would probably appreciate my quote from another post I wrote today ... ... {"while I agree with you that in regards to motorcycle physics Newton does deserve credt I can not "count out" Kenny Roberts, John Surtees, Joey Dunlop or Eddie Lawson either" Though I did forget to add Freddie Spencer to that list} ... for you would have to be an old git for those names to have meaning to you ... Either way Old Git thank you for your welcome ... it is graciously accepted.

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Karen

Hmmm and Barry Sheene

[JYA12R]

JYA12R.....what is your ride my new freind ?

Hi Karen, I ride an 83 xs400 Maxim; I have the remains of an 82 Maxim in my shop.. 83 pic is posted in the GALLERY under Members Rides. You should finish up your member information so we can get to know you better. Rick

[dtmf]

i like the look of straight pipe's myself. i think it would fit well with your build . when i did mine i made custom baffle's that sliped in to the pipe's to hush them a bit . ive now removed them becuse i like the sound alot better with out them it's god awfuly loud tho here's a old video after i made the pipe's the bike has gone thru alot of change's since then

[oldtimer]

Oldgitonabike ... being an old git you would probably appreciate my quote from another post I wrote today ... ... {"while I agree with you that in regards to motorcycle physics Newton does deserve credt I can not "count out" Kenny Roberts, John Surtees, Joey Dunlop or Eddie Lawson either" Though I did forget to add Freddie Spencer to that list} ... for you would have to be an old git for those names to have meaning to you ...

unlike oldgitonabike who is really not that old karen most of those names to me are fairly modern,how could you forget barry sheene? now people like Mike Hailwood,Jim Redman,Phil read, ,Giacomo Agostini,Bill Ivy, Jarno Saarinen and my all time favourite Geoff Duke are my era as i am an old git and the bikes you feature from you tube and the ace cafe are the type of bikes i started off with and love but have recently fallen for a new love a kawasaki w650 that i am trying to get another old guy to sell me.

welcome karen and as JYA12R says fill in the rest of your member information so we can to know you.

[up.yours]

wot you tryin to do T me bwj.