barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 i have just changedmy indicators but they fuse keeps blowing because the watage of the bulbs is to high i do have 10w bulbs on order but for the time been can i use a higer amp fuse as when i use the indicators it blows and the rear light dosent work apart from when breaking so i i put a 15amp or 20amp fuse in there will it work or will somthing else blow ? so from a 10amp - 15 or 20 amp fuse the fuse controls rear light,number platelight and front and back indicators the indicators front and back are the same and all have 21w bulbs in atm but have 10w's on order as i sead so will it work or will it damage somthing elso other wise i will have to use my arms for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild foamy Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 yes it will work, but keep an eye on your wiring as the loom may not be designed to carry the higher current, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 ok well decided not to risk it, while i was out i presed the indiactors buy accident and it blew straightaway so i have repalced it again and added a nice accesorie as in some gafertape over the indicatore switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted August 14, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2009 ok well decided not to risk it, while i was out i presed the indiactors buy accident and it blew straightaway so i have repalced it again and added a nice accesorie as in some gafertape over the indicatore switch Stop If you are blowing a 20 amp fuse with just the indicators there is something VERY wrong with the wiring. Indicators 2*21w lamps plus a bit for the relay and losses say 50w on a 12v system thats 4 amps give or take. Indicators 2*10w lamps plus a bit for the relay and losses say 30w on a 12v system thats 2.5 amps give or take. See my point, you have blown a 20, i repeat BLOWN a 20 amp fuse that needs in the region of 100+ amps. You have a dead short in the indicator system somewhere and it needs to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 Stop If you are blowing a 20 amp fuse with just the indicators there is something VERY wrong with the wiring. Indicators 2*21w lamps plus a bit for the relay and losses say 50w on a 12v system thats 4 amps give or take. Indicators 2*10w lamps plus a bit for the relay and losses say 30w on a 12v system thats 2.5 amps give or take. See my point, you have blown a 20, i repeat BLOWN a 20 amp fuse that needs in the region of 100+ amps. You have a dead short in the indicator system somewhere and it needs to be found. i have blown a 10amp not a 20 lol and that fuse controles 4 indicators and the back light (not inclusing the break light) i have just riped all the wiring out of the indicators and light and all is ok all solder is fine and all atachments are good so i know its not shorting h have removed the front to indicators and the backs work fine and so does the light so i think its just breaching the power with 4x21w plus 56led rear light the only other thing im going to do is rip off the rear light again and make sure all is water thight any way i have a flat tire so wont be riding it any way :/ stupid thing dosent like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cynic Posted August 14, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2009 i have blown a 10amp not a 20 lol and that fuse controles 4 indicators and the back light (not inclusing the break light) i have just riped all the wiring out of the indicators and light and all is ok all solder is fine and all atachments are good so i know its not shorting h have removed the front to indicators and the backs work fine and so does the light so i think its just breaching the power with 4x21w plus 56led rear light the only other thing im going to do is rip off the rear light again and make sure all is water thight any way i have a flat tire so wont be riding it any way :/ stupid thing dosent like me That 56 led whatsit must take some juice it sounds like its drawing 5-10 amps thats like 100watts. I can't believe this, all the shit you have had to put up with recently, chucking the bike down the road, fixing it up and you get a shitty on cos of a flat.??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 That 56 led whatsit must take some juice it sounds like its drawing 5-10 amps thats like 100watts. I can't believe this, all the shit you have had to put up with recently, chucking the bike down the road, fixing it up and you get a shitty on cos of a flat.??? lol well it just because it up and running and i sudernly get a flat its just tipical and do you think a 15amp fuse should be ok for led rear light and 4x10w indicators well aculy the stock ones are 10w each so should be ok as it held up for a week with no troble so i asume it can take 4x10 and the light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted August 14, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2009 like cynic says, two indicators at 21watts will take around 3.5 Amps so back light and indicator relay have 6.5 Amps for them, to blow straight away does suggest something is shorted, time to get the multimeter out, by the way have you tried the indicators left and right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 i have blown a 10amp not a 20 lol and that fuse controles 4 indicators and the back light (not inclusing the break light) i have just riped all the wiring out of the indicators and light and all is ok all solder is fine and all atachments are good so i know its not shorting h have removed the front to indicators and the backs work fine and so does the light so i think its just breaching the power with 4x21w plus 56led rear light the only other thing im going to do is rip off the rear light again and make sure all is water thight any way i have a flat tire so wont be riding it any way :/ stupid thing dosent like me Hi, check that the brown or green wires are not shorted easy done when bolting the lamps on. as a test connect one at a time to work out which lamp is causing the short then work on that one ! Regards Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 checked it all out and its 11amp so thats y its blowing so with the 10w bulbs its almost half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 checked it all out and its 11amp so thats y its blowing so with the 10w bulbs its almost half in a word nope .. if the bulb wattage is changed you will get either a faster or slower flash depending on which way you went if the circuit is correct (or perhaps just a ticking noise dependant on how far the bulbs are away from the can, but with modern cans that tend to adjust their flash rate irrespective of the bulbs connected I would guess thats not a problem. Just check out the wires a bit more Regards Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted August 14, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2009 checked it all out and its 11amp so thats y its blowing so with the 10w bulbs its almost half whats 11 amp? just the indicators without the rear light? if the rear light is connected the lions share of current is going there so 10w bulbs wont make it half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 thats with rear light and 4x 21w indicators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Airhead Posted August 14, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2009 thats with rear light and 4x 21w indicators Dan, youre getting confusing now, are you blowing fuse @11 amps with hazaard warning (4 indicators) + rear light on? I thought you were blowing fuse with direction indicator on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barwell1992 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 its blowing when indcators are on and rear light and not hazard lights im thinking the rear light is shorting and yup was geting confused will stip the lights and indicators off to moz i have already done the fronts just need to do the back and the rearlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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