Pete Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 This is a riding skills question posed by Tony Carter. If you don't know who he is...then read on. Tony is very active in the Internet Bike Community and is the ONLY guy I will seek advice from. Reason: He's mid 40's, ex-Police Motorcyclist, ex Police Motorcyclist Instructor, and ex Police Motorcyclist instructor and Examiner to the Instructors. He retired from the Police a few years ago and is a motorcycle accident investigator for Boyes Turner Legal, a major Law firm. Tony is one of the 4 highest qualified motorcyclists in this country and is in demand by Police Forces all over the world to teach them. He's also an advisor to the Government on Biking issues, but as he said, they very rarely listen. :roll: Anyway, I think I've established the source of this info. You can dispute the answer as much as you like, but unless you're higher qualified and more experienced than him, then you're wasting your time and deluding yourself. So...here we go! Here's the question...you give me what you think is the answer, and I'll give you Tony's reply later on! You are travelling along a section of road for the very first time in a national speed limit, when you are confronted by a bend or series of bends. Visibility is good, the road is good, the weather is fine and dry and traffic flow is minimal. You decide to go through the bends at 30 MPH, but because the bends are so good, when you exit them you feel that it would be perfectly safe to go a little bit faster, so you turn around and do the same section of road again but this time you do it at 40 MPH. It is still comfortable and you feel that 50 would not be an unreasonable speed so you do it again at 50 and again at 60. On all occasions it was legal, it was safe and at no time did you cause danger to yourself or other road users. What was/is the correct speed for those bends? So....what's your answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 :-k , I'd say if it's the national speed (which as we all know is 70), you'd still go round them as fast you feel comfy, as long as your in control. Wait till you see, I bet I'm talking bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 NSL on single lane roads is 60 Axl. The scenario is based on single lane cos he hasn't stipulated dual carriageway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shando Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 I would imagine anything up to the limit in respect of that stretch of road dependant on the other road users. you could go as slow as 30 in a 70 as long as it wasn't causing a hazard to any other road user. Thats what happens to me all the time when I'm in a hurry, stuck behind some one who's not :!: I don't think I can wait for the answer, mail it to me and I promise I'll keep it to meself. $hando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 :oops: Oh well I fek'd up allready, see what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 :oops: Oh well I fek'd up allready, see what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Ya cheeky feker ye :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Unless there are aload of blind bends, it should be 60 cos that's the speed limit, although anything less should be fine... I'm gonna be wrong cos it's too obvious aren't I??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Alex Posted June 23, 2004 Admin Share Posted June 23, 2004 Slow enough to be able to stop if someone is parked stationary the other side as i fecking found out a while back :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 Unless there are aload of blind bends, it should be 60 cos that's the speed limit, That's a maximum speed limit, not a mininum. If it was the minimum you'd never be able to leave Brecon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 I meant you should be able to do 60, not you should be doing 60, otherwise, like you say, I wouldn't get very far!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 70, because if no one is there to see you because traffic flow is minium you can thrash around and have some fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 uhhh...i mean it gets you out of danger faster :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XT Alan Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Never go faster than your stopping distance allows, THIS you should always be able to see. This will prevent unexpected hazards which could appear on any of the repeated trips/passes through the series of bends. This isn't a speed question, it is a visibility question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Well, Extreme........When r u gona tell us then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 What was/is the correct speed for those bends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XT Alan Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 There is no specific speed which is right for any situation. Assuming everything else is good - road surface, camber etc - you should still never have a specific speed in mind for even a known stretch of road. Hence your visible stopping distance is the only safe guideline to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 There is no specific speed which is right for any situation. Assuming everything else is good - road surface, camber etc - you should still never have a specific speed in mind for even a known stretch of road. Hence your visible stopping distance is the only safe guideline to follow. Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shando Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 I'm begginning to think that there is no one right answer to this and that he's just playing jedi mind tricks on us :shock: $hando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shando Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 It won't work Darth Xtreme, for each time you strike me down I shall become more confused than you could possibly imagine :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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