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pretty much standard, at least he stopped and you had a clear route through.

usually you gets twats thinking they'll floor it and take you out as you approach

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Seem to remember reading if a car goes to pull out always steer to go in front of them as the majority of times they will see you and stop dead. So looks like you did the right thing here.

I never assume they see you, or they wouldn't have come out in the first place

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I reckon I have this about once a week.

The other day I had a fella walk straight out in front of me. Luckily I was in 1st gear doing about 4 mph.

When I asked him what the bloody hell he was doing he says 'I didn't see you'.

You have to think for everyone it would seem....

Wes

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Happens once a day around London at the least. Morons half asleep and have no idea about judging distances. Had some daft bat pull out in front of me and say " there was enough room to get a bus between the gap"... I was about 8-10mts away doing 30 mph.

I always assume everyone's out to get me.. paranoid I know but it's saved me more then a couple of times.

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I never seen you

is an age old statement

I used to drive buses in glasgow years ago

14 FT 6IN HIGH

32 FT LONG

BRIGHT ORANGE DOUBLE DECKER

and a guy in an escort ploughed smack into the centre of it

got out his car and said ????

SORRY MATE I NEVER SAW YOU

WTF

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This is a pretty standard risk assessment of a hazard covered in the police rider's handbook to better motorcycling, page 43 to be specific. Where a stationary car at a junction is angled to turn but no eye contact is made between you and the driver. As the car begins to move, your action should be to alter your position, lose speed and make a long horn note to reduce the risk of a collision. I was in similar situations three times that day but this was the worst.

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This is a pretty standard risk assessment of a hazard covered in the police rider's handbook to better motorcycling, page 43 to be specific. Where a stationary car at a junction is angled to turn but no eye contact is made between you and the driver. As the car begins to move, your action should be to alter your position, lose speed and make a long horn note to reduce the risk of a collision. I was in similar situations three times that day but this was the worst.

Under that rule, I'll be riding to work and back with my sodding finger on the horn :movingeyes:

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wonder how up to date the that book is.

I have a copy upstairs and thought it out of date and a bit naive when it comes to other road users. It assumes everyone else follows the rules

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I never assume they see you, or they wouldn't have come out in the first place

It always seemed to me to be the ones that were looking at you were the ones that pulled out. I just got into the routine of if I saw a car coming up to a junction in front I would automatically ease off the throttle so if they did pull out you had half a chance of avoiding them.

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You just can't trust anyone.

I recently had some woman pull out in front of me on a roundabout. Fair enough, it happens and I'd anticipated, but what made me laugh was that our eyes were locked on each other from the moment she approached to the moment she hesitated and then went to go. I could see her thought process in her face "crappy learner on bike, bet I can beat them. Really can't be bothered to stop and go into 1st... Yeah I'm gonna go for it... Oh bollocks..."

Goes to show that even the ones that look don't always engage brain. Just keep on riding defensively and look out for yourself as much as you can. :-)

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I think Drewpys nailed it, there are too few people that follow or abide by the rules, and then you have another lot and sometimes these are the older drivers that have been driving for years, that don't even know the rules or plead ignorance.

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spoils riding a bike though doesnt it, the ability to relax while you are cruising along at even 30mph - im still a novice and havent many hours on the road but i have had an lorry pull out on me while i was doing 50mph did he fuck stop i was snaking as the rear whell locked up and pumping the front brake gently

also 4 or 5 cars atleast......

sometimes i drop off the revs and cover me brake when i can see a car waiting to pull out.

the old man has been riding for years on his old ducati 860gts and some woman pulled out on him on a roundabout - lost half a finger and gravel rash

never underestimate the retards with a car

ken

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