satnav rip off.

[Gas up - Let's Go!]

I kid you not.

It's horses and courses.

If you want a simple to use, get me from A to B on roads, then the TameTom is a good piece of kit. It's a great entry level navigation tool that's easy to use.

If you want to setup your own route, plan on a PC with detailed mapping/TOPO, add in stop offs, have an accurate estimate of journey time/distance, ride on roads that are not in the mapping, ride off-piste, plan visits by Lat/Long co-ords or any other mapping protocol, track and record your journey or upload the trip for others to follow then you need a Garmin.

I've used the Rider2 against a Zumo500 for many things - The TT is the best GIU, but the Zumo has a better range of features, has better base maps and a more accurate receiver. However you do pay for this, it's double the cost of a Rider2.

If you ride roads, and just want to get somewhere (and as long as the software knows the place you are going) the Rider2 is a good investment.

If you are a little more adventurous - Garmin.

As I say, horses and courses, but I've never seen a traveller (the sort who country hops, overland) use a TomTom, but I've seen Garmins in use all over the world..

I must apologise though, been back five minutes and I've taken a thread totally

[up.yours]

no need too apologise gas up, nice piece of input that.

my next trick is to upload a a program with maps and accessories that i downloaded off a dodgy sight,

but i don't know if it's such a good idea until i come back from squires , just incase it doesn't work at all afterwards.

[up.yours]

can somebody just check this to see if it's what i need,

Directory: binatone b350

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[Gas up - Let's Go!]

Sorry,, ^that^ means nothing to me, you need someone with a TomTom

although towards the end,, I see voices.....

[Ttaskmaster]

As a TT user, I have NO fucking idea what that's all about.

This is why I bought the genuine thing and enjoy easy support, rather than having to fuck about with dodgy webshites or get overly complicated in journey planning.

Plus I get to have BRIAN BLESSED on my voice options. That wins everything, every time!!

[up.yours]

i would much rather listen to jane over brian anyday.

the above listing is what i downloaded from iso-hunt,

it's all i could find,

it says Binatone accesories , but i dont know if i should put this onto an sd card ,or deleat the hard drive in the satnav and replace it with this.

[Ttaskmaster]

Jane doesn't have a fucking clue and is a sarcastic bitch. Brian is... well, Brian Belssed, really.

DIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!

[up.yours]

i must admit , brian blessed kicks the shit out of garmins squirrel ,, it's soooooo anoying.